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[wolfys_mini]

what!? so because you are gay you shouldnt be able too be a father or mother?

i fail too see your logic im afraid.

everyone has the right too be a father or mother.

[Ethel]

straight all my life (40odd years)
married to rachel we meet when she was 15 i was 19
got a house when she was 18 me 22
married when she was 21 me 25
married for 18 years now
5 fantastic kids
and very happy

what others do or feel or think really dont bother me as long as they are not in my face about it
only thing that does get me about gay and lesbian people is when they decide to adopt kids
thier choice of life style means they can not have kids (naturaly??)
but yet they seem to think they can have it both ways
bit of this and a bit of that
either gay and no kids or straight and kids

Shouldn't the real issue be the welfare of the child? Would they be better off in care? At least there'll be no conflict interests from the adoptive parents producing a baby of their own.

[Juju]

what others do or feel or think really dont bother me as long as they are not in my face about it
only thing that does get me about gay and lesbian people is when they decide to adopt kids
thier choice of life style means they can not have kids (naturaly??)
but yet they seem to think they can have it both ways
bit of this and a bit of that
either gay and no kids or straight and kids

1. Gays don't have a choice, and it's not a lifestyle.
2. Kids just need a loving, stable home, irrespective of the sexual inclinations of their guardians/parents. Kids up for adoption are in more need than others. Should single people not be able to adopt too?

Edited by Juju, 09 September 2008 - 10:57 AM.

[ian]

Craig, I honestly don't know what I'd do if one of my lads turned out to be gay, it's a situation you can't really comment on until it happens, of course I hope that they will be straight. Discussions like this annoy me sometimes as you can get flamed for being a "Homophobe" just because you don't like to see two men kissing etc. It's like being shouted down as a racist if you say that there are too many immigrants in the country. Nobody can deny the fact that it's meant to men and women together, my Lesbian sister in law and her friends also agree, but they also say that you can't help who you are if you're born that way. There are a lot of gays who bang on about being gay, which gets on my nerves, I don't bang on about having sex with girls at every opportunity.

I agree with most of this, I also dont like to see men kissing in public, what happens behind closed doors is up to them, but then i also dont like to see a man and woman with their tongues down each others throats either, perhaps its my age i dont know, but im a firm believer of theres a time and a place. Your sister in law is spot on though, no one can help who/what they are born into. Ive met quite a few gay people that as you say, bang on about being gay, and to be honest i just prefer to walk away from them as quickly as poss. One of the reasons i will never go to another gay pride, i did once and swore never again, i totally agree you dont hear hetros banging on about having sex and having marches to prove the point so why gays feel they have to ram it down everyones throat is beyond me.

What really gets on my nerves though is a hell of alot of straight men seem to think all gays are camp queens, and are going to hit on them, god knows why, we dont all want to jump into bed with every man we see, just as hetro men wont find every female attractive. Just my 2 pence worth.

Juju i hope that cake your fancying are fairy cakes

Ethel you do crack me up at times, lol

[Juju]

(oh, and by the way, people who let their pets lick their mouths......I hope you're all using listerine..... )

What about rimming a Rotweiler, is that also a No No?

I dunno. I never tried. Maybe ask the pooch to douche first?

[scrog]

only thing that does get me about gay and lesbian people is when they decide to adopt kids
thier choice of life style means they can not have kids (naturaly??)
but yet they seem to think they can have it both ways
bit of this and a bit of that
either gay and no kids or straight and kids

I have to say I disagree there, to be honest. There is no reason, just because two loving, responsible people cannot have children naturally, that they should not be able to give a home to a child in need, just because of who they love.

big no no in my eyes
you cant really pick and choose
not sure if it is fair on the kids either
not saying they would be bad parents
but i think the peer presure on there kids would be hard
especialy in there school years
but thats only my thoughts

[666junky]

Rats are actually one of the cleanest pets to own

Can't say i enjoyed P.E at all, the girls basically refused to go anywhere near me.. Even though i was happy in a relationship and had no need to go staring at them all

[Juju]

There are a lot of gays who bang on about being gay, which gets on my nerves, I don't bang on about having sex with girls at every opportunity.

i totally agree you dont hear hetros banging on about having sex and having marches to prove the point so why gays feel they have to ram it down everyones throat is beyond me.

I see one main reason for this & that is oppression. For so long lovers of the same sex have been told that they are wrong, immoral, unnatural & have no place in society, so it is quite literally a rally to show solidarity & reclaim their place in society. If hetties hadn't demonised it in the first place, there would be nothing to rail against.

What really gets on my nerves though is a hell of alot of straight men seem to think all gays are camp queens, and are going to hit on them, god knows why, we dont all want to jump into bed with every man we see, just as hetro men wont find every female attractive. Just my 2 pence worth.

Straight men have a fear of homosexuality & the power of sexuality in other men. Combine the two, and the above is how it manifests most commonly. Or that's my theory, anyway.

[CharlieBrown]

what others do or feel or think really dont bother me as long as they are not in my face about it
only thing that does get me about gay and lesbian people is when they decide to adopt kids
thier choice of life style means they can not have kids (naturaly??)
but yet they seem to think they can have it both ways
bit of this and a bit of that
either gay and no kids or straight and kids

I agree and disagree with this point. I think its wrong for a gay couple to have a child, but by that I mean artificially as in a surrogate mother or donated man ingredients. If they want to adopt then fair enough, there are too many children without parents to have people make them un-naturally, if you get what I mean.

But it may have a detrimental effect on some kids growing up with same sex parents but that is mainly due to prejudice that may take several years to change.

[scrog]

[/quote]Straight men have a fear of homosexuality & the power of sexuality in other men. Combine the two, and the above is how it manifests most commonly. Or that's my theory, anyway.
[/quote]

most straight men hate gay men cause they are always out with the best looking girls LOL

[ian]

I can see where Scrog is coming from here, i know a lesbian couple that have a son, (one of the women had a son before they met) and he had one hell of a bad time at school, but then i dont agree with the ''youve chossen that life style so no kids'' a loving home is a loving home wether its a gay, straight or single home, all children deserve that loving home.

666 i too wasnt keen on PE but the showers after footie/rugby, now thats a different thing altogether

[Ethel]

One of my friends:

His mum divorced his dad (bit of an alcoholic) then died of cancer when he was 16. He moved in with his gay brother and his partner and a year or two later the partner's 11yr old daughter joined them when her mother's relationship fell apart. Neither of the kids broadcast their home circumstances but neither did they have any hang ups about taking friends home. Neither my friend or his "step sister" would have anything bad to say how they were brought up.

[666junky]

I can see where Scrog is coming from here, i know a lesbian couple that have a son, (one of the women had a son before they met) and he had one hell of a bad time at school, but then i dont agree with the ''youve chossen that life style so no kids'' a loving home is a loving home wether its a gay, straight or single home, all children deserve that loving home.

666 i too wasnt keen on PE but the showers after footie/rugby, now thats a different thing altogether

haha I know what you mean.. certainly got some sights sometimes.. but it was the fact i was basically made to get changed away from the others and the teachers did nothing
Showering got banned at our school as the popular girls would "act" gay towards eachother.. messing about in a way that would bully the actuall gay people in our class.. Sometimes i used to question if they actually knew if they liked girls or guys..

[analogue_radio]

Haven't got a problem with it at all, I've got a good gay friend and have been friends with him since we were in year 6, he only came out about it a year ago but it hasn't changed anything, if you want to be that way inclined then do so.

But what I can't stand, and it really does annoy me, is feminine men..

[Dog]

Lesbian action bores me.

I can't see why some guys love it...

Says you when lis and jess were openly swapping bras and kissing infront of you....

Correct, and then letting me do the "firmness" test...

Doesn't mean I get a kick out of it