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#181 Jammy

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Posted 31 December 2006 - 05:06 PM

Ha ha, just read my previous reply on here:

but it kinda feels like I'm going backwards at the moment! :'(


Backwards indeed!!

For any of you who aren't aware, or haven't been following this topic, heres a quick recap:-

Eddie was the guy I was semi-building the project with, I started talking to him just as he was starting up his VPS Motorsport Components business, and he said he could build me a frame, using CDS tube, to put the Honda engine into the Clubby. He would use my car as a prototype, to design, build and develop and frame he would then sell to the public. Because it was a prototype, and because I was still going to do some of the work myself, he did me a very cheap price to weld up the shell, paint it, make the frame, roll cage and rear frame, and sort out the interior, including a custom dash. So the shell went up to his workshop, along with a Honda engine and a spare LSD gearbox a few months later.

He was always quite hard to get hold of, usually it would be a few weeks, or a couple of months before I'd be able to contact him, and go up the workshop to work on the mini, and it didn't seem anything was actually happening to the mini, each time very little or nothing would be done, but he assured me things were being designed, ordered or made up, and a call to Curley to enquire about the order of CF parts confirmed that there was indeed an order for a lot of CF parts, so I was appeased.

However, a couple of months ago it all kinda went wrong for Eddie. After speaking to quite a number of people he was close to or working with in the last year this is what I know now. Roughly three months now (November time) he was kicked out of his house by his misses, I don't know why. A week or two after this he was evicted from the workshop, this is because he hadn't been paying rent for several months (he also had been paying council tax or the community fee on the place or the electric!). So he's disappeared, owing quite a number of people money or products. So far the only thing I have managed to retrieve is the shell, however this is minus the doors, the glass, rear bumper, front bumper, bootlid, and the front end (which was cut off the day the shell arrived at the workshop). The Honda engine and spare LSD gearbox have gone too, as well as some CF wing mirrors I got. I also lost all the money I had paid him up to this date, which was a substantial amount. :'(

Depsite the best efforts of the police (I have reported this as theft) and myself we have not been able to track him down, and even if we could, and I got him to court, and I won the case, theres still little chance of getting my money or parts back. So with no options left open to me, at least until he re-surfaces, I'm just going to draw a line under this and press on with the project.

So I'm back to square one, or actually worse than that, because at square one I had doors, a front end, a bootlid and glass! :D

I had thought about getting a D series engine (which is like Honda's version of Rover's K series) and throwing it in a standard looking mini, just as a quick project to get me in a Honda powered mini quickly. However I feel if I press on with this project now it'll never get done!!

So whats got to be done from now.

Well I've been told I can clear room in the garage to work on the mini, so at the moment I've been doing that and hope to have it in there in a week or so. I got a new welder for Christmas, with which practice is going pretty well! I have the plans to make a tube bender, which I'll do when the garage is cleared. I managed to pick up another B16 very cheap this weekend, so for the most part things are already back on track.

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I also hope to have another major acquisition soon, but I'm getting shtum on that till I receive them.

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Posted 31 December 2006 - 05:17 PM

Good work Jammy, i really look forward to seeing this project blossom! :D

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Posted 31 December 2006 - 05:20 PM

fair play mate, get cracking :D

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Posted 31 December 2006 - 06:00 PM

Nice to see you not going to give up on the project after everything that has happened to you.

Good luck with getting back your parts and money.

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Posted 31 December 2006 - 07:13 PM

Good to see you got a new engine jammy!

How much did you get it for if you dont mind me asking? (Being nosey :D )

Did you get everything you need or do you need to hunt for more parts?

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Posted 31 December 2006 - 11:47 PM

good luck this time :D

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Posted 01 January 2007 - 02:17 AM

Shizz Mr James thats pretty harsh!

Good luck with the project mind, and better luck this time...

If you need a hand at all just drop me a PM and ill try and give you a hand or help you out, or some thing...

EDIT; Where did you get that engine from? I cant find any half decent/suitable honda engines anywhere!

Edited by tomm, 01 January 2007 - 04:15 AM.


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Posted 01 January 2007 - 07:02 PM

I got the engine for £250 off CRX forums. I believe kyleman has another he'll be selling soon. I believe everything is there, well it is on first glance, although no driveshafts, but thats not a problem as I'll be getting some custom billet ones made.

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Posted 01 January 2007 - 07:06 PM

Where are you getting them done mate. I havnt looked into the drive shaft side of things yet

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 12:23 AM

Lol, neither have I to be honest, I'll cross that bridge when I get to it! I'm hoping some people on here or 16V will be able to help me out. Maybe even Carl Austin is able to knock something together...

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 12:44 AM

Yea, all im thinking is:-

How can i fuel it?
How can i cool it?
How im i going to chance gear?
How am i going to stop?
Do i want KAD or Minispares 4 pots?
I need to buy a welder
Do i trust myself to weld?
This is going to be sweet when its done
Can i get it done in time?
What if i dont?
What if i converted a roof box into a massive fuel tank for long trips? It could go for miles!
No no no, I dont want a stinking roof box on all the time, I could hide it behind the roof lining!
KAD or MS?
KAD or MS?
Is a hub called a drive flange?
Hmmm.... flange


And that completes our brief tour of Bounce's mind. And as you may of noticed, he hasnt thought about driveshafts yet. (Are you going to tell him or am I?)

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 10:05 AM

Yea, all im thinking is:-

How can i fuel it?
I'll probably just get an Mpi tank.

How can i cool it?
I've got a rad (yet to buy) going in the boot (for weight distribution) with an air duct on the roof.

How im i going to chance gear?
I'm bringing the gear mech inside the car, then cutting it down. This gives me more room for the exhaust, and I can place the gear lever where I need it.

How am i going to stop?
I'm going with KADs, and if I get some Force Racing splits I can stay with 8.4".

Do i want KAD or Minispares 4 pots?
As above, KAD! :gimme:

I need to buy a welder
Got a new one for Chrimbo! :gimme:

Do i trust myself to weld?
I'm thinking the same, but then if it breaks, I only have myself to blame!!

This is going to be sweet when its done
Dam right! :w00t: :xxx: :xxx: :xxx:

Can i get it done in time?
I hope so too! :'(

What if i dont?
What if i converted a roof box into a massive fuel tank for long trips? It could go for miles!
The Honda engine should return quite good fuel economy, so I'm not too worried about how long a tank lasts.

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 11:29 AM

Glad to see you've got going again with this!

As for all those questions Bounce, I think my thoughts were pretty much identical when I started my conversion!

As for driveshafts, it might be worth getting in touch with Rob @ Allspeed...

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 12:58 PM

Yea, as with Tom, my thoughts are pretty much the same, although at the moment they are pre-occupied with thinking about the design of the subframe, where I can put the suspension pickup points etc.

I'm hoping to keep the track of the mini the same as standard, in which case Allspeeds standard Vtec driveshafts *should* fit.

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 05:31 PM

I got the engine for £250 off CRX forums. I believe kyleman has another he'll be selling soon. I believe everything is there, well it is on first glance, although no driveshafts, but thats not a problem as I'll be getting some custom billet ones made.


how did you find kyleman jammy? a good few people were after him awhile ago on the crx forum due to him pocketing money and not sending out the parts




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