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#16 sonikk4

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 06:42 PM

Wow
wonder how much it would cost to deseam my mini cabriolet :D
Brilliant job


about £300 if you do it your self with a gasless MIG.
more like £500 if its gas (those bottles dont last long!)

Thats including cost of wire, and practice metal to get good at it.


I take it you mean the small bottles you buy from Halfrauds etc.

Go to your nearest B.O.C dealer and get either a plain CO2 bottle or a Argon/CO2 mix (preferable.) Its on a contract but if you are doing a lot of welding then this will be the way to go. As a rough guide i think its about £90 a year then you can get a refill for about £30 although these figures depend on the size of the bottle.

You can always cancel the contract when you have finished

I will be going this route once my old gas bottle is empty. The prices i've mentioned are only a rough guide they may be less or more but still cheaper than buying those disposable bottles.

Hope this helps.

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 04:23 PM

im thining of debumpering is it the same process as de seaming
thanks in advance :dontgetit:

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Posted 27 February 2010 - 09:23 PM

well yes it is, however at the back the valence lip is made of 3 pieces of metal, so youll have to make sure the welds penetrate properly

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Posted 04 April 2010 - 03:44 PM

hi,

im new to this and i only got my mini a couple of months ago. im thinking of adding a 1.8 VTEC lump to mine and i also want to deseam it as i think it looks awesum, but as im an apprentice mechanic i dnt have a lot of money or time so im looking for prices of deseaming it. any help would be v helpful

thanks

karl

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Posted 04 April 2010 - 07:32 PM

Probably about £800 for a good job.

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Posted 04 April 2010 - 07:45 PM

and i think it's £400 for your IVA test

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Posted 04 April 2010 - 07:53 PM

and i think it's £400 for your IVA test


I swear 95% of your posts are about IVA bumgle! :thumbsup:

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Posted 04 April 2010 - 08:00 PM

no 50% are about roller painting

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 12:32 AM

Once people start posting on forums theve been told to have an IVA then I'll start worrying about it. But it's all just a big hype at the moment with people bashing on about it all the time! Reminded me of the year 1999 and the millenium bug. "We're all doomed"

Anyway I'm thinking of deseaming mines so any other info on the topic would be nice!

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 02:08 AM

I would expect that a deseamed Mini would actually reduce its value. Removing pieces, particularly that are hard to reverse tend to detract from an older cars originality and value.

Saying that - each to their own.

Deseaming used to be done to reduce frontal area and weight for race cars, same for bumpers/seams.

Personally - I think Minis look wrong without the bumpers, and roof seams. The front and rear seems if done properly I don think most people would notice they are missing.

PS - Riley Elfs / Hornets they didnt keep the rear seam.

My car had been debumpered back and front when I got it, and I have added brackets to have bumpers again.

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 06:20 AM

Once people start posting on forums theve been told to have an IVA then I'll start worrying about it. But it's all just a big hype at the moment with people bashing on about it all the time! Reminded me of the year 1999 and the millenium bug. "We're all doomed"

Anyway I'm thinking of deseaming mines so any other info on the topic would be nice!


then check you can insure a car with serious body mods and no IVA certificate

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Posted 03 May 2010 - 02:08 PM

then check you can insure a car with serious body mods and no IVA certificate


just out of interest then, how is de-seaming different to having a complete floor chopped out and replaced, or new inner wings put in properly?

if welded correctly, wont it be as strong as any repair work done to any car? surely some cars that get rot in their a pillars around windscreen area (ford, mazda etc.) don't need an IVA if they have a part of it cut away and replaced seamlessly, and i would wager the A pillar on there is also structural

just wondering is all

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Posted 03 May 2010 - 07:29 PM

then check you can insure a car with serious body mods and no IVA certificate


just out of interest then, how is de-seaming different to having a complete floor chopped out and replaced, or new inner wings put in properly?

if welded correctly, wont it be as strong as any repair work done to any car? surely some cars that get rot in their a pillars around windscreen area (ford, mazda etc.) don't need an IVA if they have a part of it cut away and replaced seamlessly, and i would wager the A pillar on there is also structural

just wondering is all


If you replace a panel, you're replacing it to factory specification, or you should be anyway. If you de seam it you're substantially modifying the original structure. The seams are there for a reason, plus they provide a crumple zone, and mini's need as many of those as they can get!

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Posted 28 August 2010 - 08:31 PM

my mini has been deseamed. not by me bought it like that and both doors leak quite badly changed the door seals so both doors seal tight and water is still getting in it seams to build up at the bottom of the doors about a third of the way in. anyone got any ideas of how i can stop this ?

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 08:25 AM

hiya does any one now of any one that will deseam my mini but not the roof and a rough cost many thanks dan


I would want £500 to de-seam, fill and prime your mini mate, heres one i did earlier.
http://www.theminifo...x...2&hl=shorty

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