24 replies to this topic

[Tomf]

ok well i connected it all up and put the key and and turned it so the electrics would work, and this tried to fire the engine.

And this was with the wires like this:



So i swapped the white/red around for the yellow and white, i then put the key in and turned it so the electric would work and nothing happened which is good, so i then turned it to fire the engine, but nothing...

Has anyone got any idea whats has gone wrong?

I need to get this sorted ASAP so any help soon would be greate.

[Tomf]

BUMP someone must no, i need to get this sorted, so i can fire the engine up.

[Jammy]

I know you've sorted this out now, but I believe the solenoid needs to be earthed too. Easy if you just mount it on one of the transfer case bolts.

[Sleepy Stu]

I know you've sorted this out now, but I believe the solenoid needs to be earthed too. Easy if you just mount it on one of the transfer case bolts.

As Jammy said from that pic its looks like your holding it. It may be the case that its just to take the photo but if not it must be properly earthed.

Also (and im not having a go here) try to use a proper camera to take photos rather that your mobile phone. Look at the qaultiy of the two photos i took it makes life a lot easier for people trying to help!!

Edited by Stewart_GT, 07 July 2008 - 01:38 PM.

[Tomf]

LOL yea i know what your saying about the camera, ill try and get one sorted soon.

yea thank you vary much for the help on the phone jammy, cleared alot up.

And yea its already mounted on the flywheel cover, but the pics were taken before i did that, i didnt try and start it like that.

The problem was that the white and red wire was split further back, that i couldnt see as all the wiring was taped over, so i fed a ned wire through and now its working fine

Cheers for the help everyone

[jonb_5]

Hi,

I am wiring my solenoid, the same one as in the first post.

I have had to change some of my wiring loom and am going to buy two longer cables to go from the alternator to the solenoid. Do these wire on with the battery positive and 2 other brown cables i have which are looped at the end?

I also will have to make my white/yellow wires longer to have enough length to spare.

I dont however have a red/white cable, what is this for and do i need it?

Thanks

Jon

[jonb_5]

Sorted other things, just need to know what the red/white wire is for as i dont have one??

Thanks

Jon

[Boab]

Sorry for bringing this back up but I need some advice.

I have just rebuilt a 1967 Cooper which was a rolling shel and nothing else and have no guidance to my wiring.

I bought Minispares Alternator wiring loom new.

When it comes to the starter solenoid I take it I just follow the advice given above?

It confused me for a while as to why the loom wouldn't go to the regulator and solenoid then the penny dropped. The loom is converted to do away with the regulator as it is controlled by the Alternator.

I also have 3 large wires near the alternator, 2 x white with black(blue) tracer and a solid white. Are these the connections for the coil?

Every diagram I have found points towards neg earth so it's getting a wee bit frustrating as I've never dealt with this before. I may add, it's pos earth I'm running.

Thanks in advance

[dklawson]

Thanks for searching and finding this old thread.  However, I suggest starting a new thread as you are dealing with several different issues and not everyone is going to read through the old posts to get to your recently added questions.

 

Since you bought a later loom for a car with an alternator, the best general advice I can offer is to sit down with a wiring diagram for a later car and trace out the wires you are unsure of.  When I bought my car's replacement loom I stretched it out on the floor and used my meter to check it point-to-point and I placed tape labels on the end of each wire so I would be assured of getting things connected to the right points.

 

In answer to your direct question about the white and white/black wires, yes they are for the coil.  The white wire is power from the ignition switch to coil (+).  Look carefully at the white black wires.  You may find (3) wire ends, not just (2).  If you only find two white/black ends, check them with a meter.  They are probably terminals on the opposite ends of one wire.  If so, one end goes to coil (-) and the other end goes to the distributor.   It is the wire that connects the coil to the points.

 

If you find an additional white/black wire, it will be for connection of a later type voltage pulse sensing tachometer.  The end in the engine bay will also connect to coil (-).

[Boab]

Thanks for the reply. That makes sense to what my head is telling me. If I have anymore issues I'll start a new thread.

I managed to figure out the solenoid part via your suggestion above and thinking later model looms as they have basically irradiated the regulator.

The 'spare' white/black does sound like the later wire for the tachometer with the bullet connection on a later loom.

Have bigger problems of engine not turning when in gear with the wheel/s on the ground but fine in the air so this will take a back seat until the engine turns.

It has everyone local to me baffled