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[Tomf]

Well i have changed to a pre-verto set-up, so i now have an inertia starter, so i need a starter solinoid, How would i wire this up, when converting from pre-engaged starter? I have included a diagram, but im not sure what bits are used? if any are used please could someone lable what wires go where?

Any help would be greate really.

I have searched and searched, but i cant anything of much use.

[Tomf]

Ok well i have just found this thread, but its only showing 5 connections, where mine has 6...

Does anyone know how mine is wired up?

[dan_up850]

i have made a note of how mine was wired up, i may be able to tell you tomorrow, im pretty sure that "E" goes to the back of the starter motor itself, ive listed some of the connections down somewhere!! haha, im not much of an electrics man.

Edited by dan_up850, 23 June 2008 - 11:21 PM.

[Sleepy Stu]

Ok Tomf im not with my mini so i cant check how ive got mine wired but im gonna go off the trusty Hanynes. Take a look at the diagram below



So using your diagram from the first post.

Connect the battery positive to connection 'E'

Also connect all the brown wires you can find to 'E' as well

Connect the thick wire from the starter motor to connection 'F'

Conect the white/red wire to connection 'A'

Connect the white/yellow wire to 'B'


Also can somebody who has a mini close to them have a quick look and make sure i have got that right! Thx

Edited by Stewart_GT, 23 June 2008 - 11:23 PM.

[Tomf]

Thank you very much so i guess i dont use the teminals i marked C and D...

Ill give that a go tomorrow and see how it goes.

thanks for the help

[Sleepy Stu]

If you can wait till about 11am tomorrow i can have a look at mine and even get a pic for you?

Im not an electrical genius so would just like somebody with a bit more know how to confirm what i have said is correct before i fry the wiring in your mini

[dan_up850]

knew i wasnt much of an electrics man!

[Tomf]

If you can wait till about 11am tomorrow i can have a look at mine and even get a pic for you?

Im not an electrical genius so would just like somebody with a bit more know how to confirm what i have said is correct before i fry the wiring in your mini

That would be amazing thank you very much

[Dan]

Almost right but do not connect the white/yellow to B, that will melt your coil pretty quickly.

Before you do anything else, disconnect the battery earth.

Next, remember the solenoid body must be earthed. Given the cable lengths you have when you do this conversion the easiest way to get it all wired up is to bolt the solenoid to the pair of unused threads on the transfer case edge near the starter. That will mean all the cables should reach and the solenoid will have a good earth.

It being a 6 terminal solenoid doesn't matter since B,C and F are all commoned anyway. Just means it's a universal part or one originally designed for another car.

You need a starter motor cable that you won't currently have, Halfords do them. Use this to connect E to the stud on the back of the starter, use 2 spanners on the starter stud and solenoid posts. One to hold the stud still and one to tighten the nut, if you don't do this you can easily break the stud off the internals by twisting it and then the motor or solenoid will be useless.

You should find three large brown cables ending in rings, and the main feed. These all connect together at F.

You should also find a large brown cable with a large spade on the end. This connects to C and won't really connect well anywhere else in any case.

The last two depend on the exact build of the solenoid, some are different but I will go by the way it appears to be built from the photo. If it doesn't work just re-arrange these two.

D appears to be the solenoid trigger. This needs the white/red cable.

A appears to be the cranking bypass. This needs the yellow/white.

Reconnect the battery. If it is wired wrong the result will be the solenoid firing when the ignition is turned on but the key is not yet turned to start. If that happens, as I said swap the last two connections.

[syholl]

Ok Tomf im not with my mini so i cant check how ive got mine wired but im gonna go off the trusty Hanynes. Take a look at the diagram below



So using your diagram from the first post.

Connect the battery positive to connection 'E'

Also connect all the brown wires you can find to 'E' as well

Connect the thick wire from the starter motor to connection 'F'

Conect the white/red wire to connection 'A'

Connect the white/yellow wire to 'B'


Also can somebody who has a mini close to them have a quick look and make sure i have got that right! Thx

Also, in the list above, you have got terminals E and F the wrong way around. Terminal F (which also has B and C connected to it) is the permanent live, so the cable from the battery goes here. The starter motor connects to E...

[Tomf]

Thanks for the help maby this should be put in the FAQ. ill have a go at wiring this uptoday, but ill need to give me battery a charge before i can test it, but im sure it will be fine , by the way thanks for the tip about mounting it on the transfer case.

[Sleepy Stu]

Yep just had a look at my mini and its wired as the guys above have said!

[Tomf]

Well i finally got round to going out and sorting this, but before i got a bit confused by the starter motor wire bit, im using a second hand starter and it has one wire attatched to it, but is this the wire that you was talking about Dan

ill let the pics do the talking.

rear of the starter showing the wire that is already attatched, so is this the wire that connects to E or do i need another type of wire that will some how attatch to the other bit at the back of the starter?



Then here was the brown wire with the spade conector that used to be joined to the starter, so im guessing this goes to C



Then here are the brown wires with ring conectors, i could only find 2 though... and i take it these connect to F.



I then have this wire that traces under the car, that used to connect to the starter, what do i do with this?



And here is a pic of the wire i already have coming off the starter.



Any help would be great.

[Sleepy Stu]

Ok tom this is what ive got for you. Now bear in mind that the wiring in my photos is for a '79 GT and therefore may vary slightly to yours?

The big fat blue wire in the solenoid photo goes to the starter motor. The big fat black on therefore is from the battery

Edited by Stewart_GT, 04 July 2008 - 06:11 PM.

[Tomf]

Your a star, thank you very much them pics clear everything up for me.

Ill get that wire up tomorrow

Thanks again