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[Retro_10s]

no, the xr2s are vented and unfortunately wont fit

good that's what i wanted to confirm.

[Gr4h4m]

no, the xr2s are vented and unfortunately wont fit

good that's what i wanted to confirm.

and the spacing is wrong.... too far out from the disc the pad would stick over the edge of the disc...

P.S if yo are using our vid there is a small mistake We used the bolts form the mini drive flange not the Metro as stated in the vid. Just a slip of the tongue

[atom]

Is this a strictly DIY thing, or is someone offering these converted brakes for sale anywhere?

[Gr4h4m]

I only know of it being DIY... but I think there was a garage in Stockport Manchester area that did it for a Finity member but they got all of the bits.

[Gr4h4m]

Brilliant! Thanks a bunch for this vid.

Between this and your bearings and balljoint videos, you're guiding me through my next week of work!

Olly how did you get on????

[Mayfair Junky]

I'm now thinking of doing this on my car, but just wanted to know whether this will fit over Mini Special alloys as I don't want to do it if it won't fit the wheels my car came with.

Also is there a list of needed parts (for a drum to disk conversion) to go with the vid as this topic has just become confusing with various ideas and i'd like to know what you guys settled on in the end.

[miniboo]

yeah they do fit over mini special wheels

[Gr4h4m]

I'm now thinking of doing this on my car, but just wanted to know whether this will fit over Mini Special alloys as I don't want to do it if it won't fit the wheels my car came with.

Also is there a list of needed parts (for a drum to disk conversion) to go with the vid as this topic has just become confusing with various ideas and i'd like to know what you guys settled on in the end.

mmmm I did get a bit of a list together, I dont know if anyone else would like to add... oh and it depends how much refrubd work you need to to like wheel bearings, ball joints, etc

This is the link to our club thread
http://www.miniaddic...read.php?t=1193

and a cut and paste list.... but I wouldn't short cut on the research as parts of info can be taken out of context.....

"- DISCLAIMER -
Before we start this thread is talking about changing your brakes, Death and injury may result if you don't fit car parts correctly or you take shortcuts... You should seek professional advice before undertaking any work on your car.

Background

The parts list. We have decided to completely refurb the hubs as they were secondhand and if you are going to strip everything down then provide the car with more breaking force its best to have everything in tip top condition. Its best to factor in these costs when considering an upgrade.


So Why Do it

The upgrade can be for people who have drums all round and want discs but want to keep the 10inch wheel -Me or people who have a 12inch or larger wheel and think that smaller is better and are looking for the retro 10 inch look.

Its cheaper than a Cooper S 7.5 inch kit which are about £500.
Its cheaper than the 7.9inch 4 pots as these are about £400-£500 once you have factored in the hoses, hubs (if you are doing the conversion form drums)

The Mk2 Fiesta calipers use a larger pad than the mini, you can use the 7.9inch disc and the single pot caliper design means the pedal should be high and firm as you will need to move less fluid. All this should add up to a good fade resistant braking system. + you won't need to adjust the front's like you do with Drums. The Ford kit is well proven and the old grotty caliper I got at first still moved on its slide by hand so they should resist sticking.


Donor Parts (Second Hand)

- Mini Brake Disc hubs (Expect to pay about £50 with drive shafts)
- Fiesta Mk2 calipers and carriers - The carries are the most important part as you can buy new calipers just not the carrier.


New Parts

- Drive shaft Clips
- Wheel Bearings (there a lot of info on what type Timkin or std)
- Ball joints and new grease nipples
- Cv gaiter (Cheap and you might split the exisiting one)
- Custom hoses with Fiesta metric connection one end and mini subframe on the other)
- The Fiesta calipers I have are not in bad condition but as the car stands between meetings I'm going for refurb units
- Fiesta Pads, Lots of talk about what is best... remember a super fast road style pad will need heat in it to work so its best to pick one for the way you drive. We are going to try a good quality road pad.
- Drive Flanges off of an MG Metro Turbo or vented disc metro. This is to give you the clearance to bolt the Fiesta caliper on.
- 8.4 inch discs turned and have them turned down to 7.9inch or about 6mm off of the radius.
- Brake fluid.
- Longer high tensile metric bolts to hold the front calipers on as the Ford ones are too short - THESE MUST BE HIGH TENSILE.
- New larger disc master cylinder

Drum upgrade Parts

- New inbound rubber drive couplings and u bolts, if fitted
- A 1inch rear wheel spacer kit either the 1275 drum type on post 84 mini's or a 1inch spacer both will need longer wheel studs. This is because the discs on the front will push the wheels out so you need to bring the rear wheels in-line.
- Wheel arches if you don't have them as the wheel will stick out further
- you might need small rear wheel cylinders if you don't have the limiting valve on the rear sub frame, you don't want the rears locking before the front.

12" wheels to 10" upgrade / downgrade
- 10 Inch wheels, I don't think that mamba's or steel will work.

This is the first Draft so I might have missed something... Mark please add anything..."

[$way]

mamba's will not fit.

here is a list of wheels from minifinity, me and mark on there tested them with my mk2 calipers

1) 10x5 cosmics
2) 10x5 compomotives
3) 10x5 mini lights
4) 10x5 100+
5) 10x5 mistral
6) 10x6 revolutions
7) 10x6 mercurys
8) 10x5/6 GB's

please add to it if your wheels are not in the list.

J

Edited by $way, 16 May 2007 - 02:15 PM.

[Retro_10s]

1) 10x5 cosmics
2) 10x5 compomotives
3) 10x5 mini lights
4) 10x5 100+
5) 10x5 mistral
6) 10x6 revolutions
7) 10x6 mercurys
8) 10x5/6 GB's
9) 10x5/6 Cobra supaslots

[$way]

forgot my wheels lol

1) 5x10 cosmics
2) 5x10 compomotives
3) 5x10 mini lights
4) 5x10 100+
5) 5x10 mistral
6) 6x10 revolutions
7) 6x10 mercurys
8) 5/6x10 GB's
9) 5/6x10 Cobra supaslots
10) 6x10 wellers

had to change them it was annoying me them being the wrong way round...

[Pickup76]

Got myself some new wheels, so i can add to the list!

1) 5x10 cosmics
2) 5x10 compomotives
3) 5x10 mini lights
4) 5x10 100+
5) 5x10 mistral
6) 6x10 revolutions
7) 6x10 mercurys
8) 5/6x10 GB's
9) 5/6x10 Cobra supaslots
10) 6x10 wellers
11) 5x10 MWS mini lights (so i assume all MWS wheels)

[Gr4h4m]

Hi, does anyone have a problem with 10x 6 wheels touching the front of the wheel arch on full lock? I find it happens with two people in the car and I wondered if running 10x5 would sort the problem.???

[markrally]

it is because your running metro flanges and have moved the wheels out 10mm each side so the steering arc is increased a little,
You maybe able to trim the leading edge of the wing/arch a little?
It isnt a major problem really but the sportspack minis had steering lock stops built into the rack to limit the lock so they didnt foul the arches or wings.
These maybe an idea if your very concerned????


Cheers

[Jammy]

KAD sell the steering rack limiters for about £8 I believe.