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#1 shashora

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Posted 31 January 2008 - 10:22 AM

Hi ive been told i have a hydrolastic suspension type with my 1100 engine, i also have a 998 in a subframe with standard shocks and cones. I was wondering how difficult it would be and if it can be done at all, to swap the suspension setup from the 998 to my 1100?
Also would u recommend just swapping over completely to the hilo suspension or is there better spent money on other areas of the car and the normal shocks with cones setup is fine?

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Posted 31 January 2008 - 10:32 AM

Why not just put the 1100 engine onto the 998 subframe? Much easier if you ask me.

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Posted 31 January 2008 - 11:32 AM

The only '1100' Mini I can think of that should have hydrolastic is the 1071 Cooper. It should be very obvious if you do have a hydrolastic Mini, 2 dirty great hoses poking out of the cross-member between the subby mounting bolts. If you go for an engine/gearbox swap you may have fun with the gear selector and diff output joints if they are not the same. There was, of course, the 1100 Austin Saloon that had hydro suspension.

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Posted 31 January 2008 - 11:46 AM

Well ive been told that this engine is a 1100 engine from pictures ive posted up..
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Is this right??
But there are no shocks to be seen like in my other subframe... So i will b taking this one into the other subframe like Jammy sugested..

Ethel? if i do have the hydrolastic are you saying their will be a problem with the gearbox selector etc if i change to shocks? If there is can i grab the differing parts off my 998 subby?
Cheers for the info + help guys!

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Posted 31 January 2008 - 11:59 AM

It's more a guess based on the hydrolastic - it was used on older Min's that may well have different selectors and shaft joints. It should be obvious just by looking if they are different types. If you do spot any differences post up some piccies and I'm sure you'll get some advice on what will work. 12G 202 is a 997 cooper or Austin saloon head. Someone could have just swapped the head of course, the engine number would be a better indicator.

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Posted 31 January 2008 - 12:00 PM

Thats an 1100 cylinder head, but that doesn't neccessarily means its an 1100 engine. Is there an engine number? Should be on the face, on the right hand side, just above the core plug (below the water temp sender in the head).

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Posted 31 January 2008 - 12:22 PM

Ok shall take pics of engine and get pics up tomorrow..
Cheers

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Posted 31 January 2008 - 05:13 PM

The only '1100' Mini I can think of that should have hydrolastic is the 1071 Cooper.


Strictly speaking... the 1071 is not the engine referred to when speaking about an 1100. The 1071 Cooper-S had a dry suspension. Hydrolastic cars arrived in September 1964... about 2 months after my car was built and after 1071 production ceased.

I'm afraid I can't add any constructive advice on which engine and suspension setup would be best for you. However, hydrolastic parts are becoming more rare so if you can go dry and are willing to take that route... it's what I'd do.

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Posted 05 February 2008 - 06:31 AM

Ok took some pics finally

Edited by shashora, 05 February 2008 - 06:35 AM.


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Posted 05 February 2008 - 06:31 AM

Hi guys ive taken the pic this is the only stamp i could find on the front right other than on the gearbox....
Is this right??
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If you cant read it that says 306 not 506

Also i found a stamp on the back of the engine
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Let me know cause i dont want to bother working wtih this engine if its not the 1100.
Thanks ;)

Edited by shashora, 05 February 2008 - 06:35 AM.


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Posted 05 February 2008 - 08:48 AM

Hi my friend told me that 306 is way to short to be a engine number so i went back downstairs and attacked my engine further with degreaser and a rag. I couldnt see any other numbers stamped into the engine other than on the bakc of the engine.
So where i found the 306 is shown in this image to give an idea of location its circled in red...
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Then i found one other number stamped on the back this is shown in this next image. Which seems to me to say c2-h2

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And the c2h2 stamp's location is shown in this next image circled in red and the 12a497 stamp that was found previously is shown with a blue circle.

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Is this enough to distinguish what engine i have???

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 12:10 AM

Hi guys found out from a aussie site its a 1100 thanks for the help!:lol:

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 12:21 AM

It's certainly an oldie judging by the oil filter. the engine number should be on a little aluminium strip below No 1 cylinder spark plug - the wrong end of your arrow in the first piccy.

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 12:58 AM

Yer looks like a 1098 if you ask me, must of been transplanted on to wet suspension.

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 05:48 AM

Hi ive been told i have a hydrolastic suspension type with my 1100 engine, i also have a 998 in a subframe with standard shocks and cones. I was wondering how difficult it would be and if it can be done at all, to swap the suspension setup from the 998 to my 1100? Also would u recommend just swapping over completely to the hilo suspension or is there better spent money on other areas of the car and the normal shocks with cones setup is fine?


I read this asyou are looking at swapping the dry suspension into a hydro subrame. if this is right it can be done but the subframe needs abit of work to get the cones to sit proerly.
with the hydro subframes they have locking tabs for the hydro bags, these are three tabs that hold the bags into the frame. These will need to be flattened or cut out. it is the same with the rear subframe but much easier to do.




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