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[mab01uk]

Works Rally Minis
TO COME UNDER THE HAMMER AT H&H
CHELTENHAM, 27 FEBRUARY 2008

. . .a pair of Works Minis sought by collectors the world over, H&H will be
auctioning not one but two in the Cheltenham sale:-

1. 1964 Morris Mini Cooper S (CRX 90B)
Estimate - £40,000-50,000.
http://www.classic-a.......5&aucid=231

2. 1967 Austin Mini Cooper S (OBL 45F)
Estimate - £30,000-40,000.
http://www.classic-a.......4&aucid=230

[THE ANORAK]

i find this a complete and utter joke. Stuart turner himself once said that the amount of original parts left on these cars made them nothing more that replicas.

he freely admited fitting old chassis plates to new shells and swapping bits left right and centre. the only unmolested cars were the famous winners of the big events.

yes the cars are nice, but are they worth that much, you must be having a laugh

[taffy1967]

Well it's all about prestige, because the 1965 RAC Rally winning Mini Cooper S (DJB 93B) sold for over a hundred thousand pounds recently at auction. Even though that was a totally built up replica, which is using the original number-plates and Rauno Aalternon had never been anywhere near it.

[mab01uk]

i find this a complete and utter joke. Stuart turner himself once said that the amount of original parts left on these cars made them nothing more that replicas.

he freely admited fitting old chassis plates to new shells and swapping bits left right and centre. the only unmolested cars were the famous winners of the big events.

yes the cars are nice, but are they worth that much, you must be having a laugh

Yes....but thats also true in the vintage/veteran car and the classic motorbike world. At the end of the day its virtually impossible for a vehicle made up of a collection of mechanical parts to survive unmolested over many years unless it goes straight from the event into a museum never to be used again. Even the works Minis in Gaydon have many incorrect non-original parts fitted. I can remember the original and replica works Minis going around the country for display in BMC showrooms in the 60's and 70's and mechanics I knew were swapping off bits for their own Minis! Nobody in charge knew or cared as at the time these cars were not thought to be future valuable museum pieces to be retained in perfect original as rallied condition.
What really matters is that those that survive in what ever form continue to promote the Works Minis place in motoring history to the general public who are actually not that bothered about the detail. eg. When I go to Beaulieu Museum I'm not that concerned whether the Brooklands Bentley or TT winning motorbike I'm looking at is absolutely genuine in every detail. Like anything if they have the money its up to the buyers to decide its market value when bidding.

[THE ANORAK]

i agree with the point that the cars play an important historical role .... but they are just not worth that kind of money but then you could say that about most minis these days

[Jammy]

I say the old addage 'A car is only worth what someone is prepared to pay for it" is true to form here. If those cars sell for £40+ then I'd say thats what they are worth. Personally I'd pay £30-40k for a Works mini, just knowing I owned the history that the car, at least in spirit, had been involved in.

[THE ANORAK]

its a sick world we live in... i wonder what these guys would buy with £40,000 - £50,000

Edited by THE ANORAK, 23 December 2007 - 07:28 PM.

[Barnett]

its a sick world we live in... i wonder what these guys would buy with £40,000 - £50,000

" Well they wouldnt by contriception..."

I dont think any mini is worth 40,000, and if it was i would buy it...even if i had the money!!

[mini-majic]

its a sick world we live in... i wonder what these guys would buy with £40,000 - £50,000

" Well they wouldnt by contriception..."

I dont think any mini is worth 40,000, and if it was i would buy it...even if i had the money!!

nice one, very tastefull!

think about what your writing would you!!!

[jefinabox]

nice one, very tastefull!

think about what your writing would you!!!

Well I don't know who that was directed at, but I think it was pretty tasteless of THE ANORAK to post that image in the first place, we all spend money that could go to better causes, I eat luxury food, buy clothes that are more than just items to keep the weather off AND i spend LOTS of money on a silly little car just for nostalgia's sake, £40k isn't so much in the grand scheme of things.

It's a shame the cars aren't as original, though I do like the idea of dealers swapping bits off lol. I really hope to build a works rep one day, and I'm sure I wouldn't get much change out of £25k so £40k for something like that is prolly a good deal in the long run.

Oh and MERRY CHRISTMAS

Edited by jefinabox, 24 December 2007 - 08:22 AM.

[THE ANORAK]

i cant see why its tasteless to post the truth

the point i was making was aimed at our materialistic society as a whole, and yes i admit I'm just as guilty as the rest

but lets not forget that images like this are real and not in bad taste

merry Christmas (he says in a slightly hypocritical tone as I'm against all religion and what it stands for )

Edited by THE ANORAK, 24 December 2007 - 10:43 AM.

[Mini Jill]

i cant see why its tasteless to post the truth

the point i was making was aimed at our materialistic society as a whole, and yes i admit I'm just as guilty as the rest

but lets not forget that images like this are real and not in bad taste

merry Christmas (he says in a slightly hypocritical tone as I'm against all religion and what it stands for )

I'm against all religion and what it stands for says The Anorak. what a when is Avitor is in a christmas theme

[1 mini]

i cant see why its tasteless to post the truth

the point i was making was aimed at our materialistic society as a whole, and yes i admit I'm just as guilty as the rest

but lets not forget that images like this are real and not in bad taste

merry Christmas (he says in a slightly hypocritical tone as I'm against all religion and what it stands for )

I'm against all religion and what it stands for says The Anorak. what a when is Avitor is in a christmas theme

For once I agree with Mini Jill and I think that picture is in very bad taste.

[THE ANORAK]

oh go away and hide under your duvets, carry on pretending that the world is all happy and jolly,

I'm bored with you now >

[Jammy]

Personally I think The Anorak has a point, and I can't see how it can be taken as bad taste - trying to highlight the plights of people less fortunate than ourselves?

However I for one wouldn't feel guilty for one second if I spent £40k on a mini. I've always had to work for what I've bought, so if I was in a position where I could afford to spend £40k on a mini then I'd be mighty pleased.