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[Vegas superstar]

Is it sad that I would rather drool over this then the gorgeous girls posted earlier?

Yes it is my friend. Sorry to say but come on guys, get things into perspective! I equally drool over the 'rare' titanium be-spoke exhaust. Truely I do but I think you need to get out more...

No its not sad its the truth. Chicks can be seen everywhere. Good fabrication cant.

And that is NOT a valid argument!



Muck Fee! That exhaust is nice though...

[SukiDawg]

Great fabrication there on the exhaust, but poor turbo matching and design. Sorry.

If you're overboosting to that degree, your compressor is too big for the engine. The high end of your engine performance should be getting close to the flow capacity of the comp - if not your dragging round extra inertia and will end up with a laggy throttle response as the penalty. No way should you ever need to run a double wastegate arrangement with a single turbo charger thats properly matched.

I know you American guys like to go for the most massive output possible, and tend to end up with these kind of set ups. A properly matched turbo / engine combination will still be quicker on anything other than oval track because it'll spool quicker and accelerate the car while your still winding up your turbine.


I am sure this will be seen as going against the grain of feeling, but just because something might win at top trumps doesn't necessarily mean its going to be the most efficient thought out solution.

[MotorinFool]

Is it sad that I would rather drool over this then the gorgeous girls posted earlier?

Yes it is my friend. Sorry to say but come on guys, get things into perspective! I equally drool over the 'rare' titanium be-spoke exhaust. Truely I do but I think you need to get out more...

HAHA, its all about priorities.... also being married I get in trouble for drooling over other women.


Sukidawg, yeah, I don't know when we will learn bigger is not always better, but it is a show car, so I'm thinking form over function on this one.

[e11evns]

Great fabrication there on the exhaust, but poor turbo matching and design. Sorry.

If you're overboosting to that degree, your compressor is too big for the engine. The high end of your engine performance should be getting close to the flow capacity of the comp - if not your dragging round extra inertia and will end up with a laggy throttle response as the penalty. No way should you ever need to run a double wastegate arrangement with a single turbo charger thats properly matched.

I know you American guys like to go for the most massive output possible, and tend to end up with these kind of set ups. A properly matched turbo / engine combination will still be quicker on anything other than oval track because it'll spool quicker and accelerate the car while your still winding up your turbine.


I am sure this will be seen as going against the grain of feeling, but just because something might win at top trumps doesn't necessarily mean its going to be the most efficient thought out solution.

why not go the whole hog dawg and say inconel would of been better than titanium,it can be made lighter and can withstand higher heat levels, its what the f1 boys are using, but i dont think lyle is to bothered about things like that he wants an amazing display of fabrication and by god what an amazing car 10 out of 10 from me!

[captainjack15]

So ummm you selling it yet

[Ade]

Great fabrication there on the exhaust, but poor turbo matching and design. Sorry.

If you're overboosting to that degree, your compressor is too big for the engine. The high end of your engine performance should be getting close to the flow capacity of the comp - if not your dragging round extra inertia and will end up with a laggy throttle response as the penalty. No way should you ever need to run a double wastegate arrangement with a single turbo charger thats properly matched.

I know you American guys like to go for the most massive output possible, and tend to end up with these kind of set ups. A properly matched turbo / engine combination will still be quicker on anything other than oval track because it'll spool quicker and accelerate the car while your still winding up your turbine.


I am sure this will be seen as going against the grain of feeling, but just because something might win at top trumps doesn't necessarily mean its going to be the most efficient thought out solution.

Just a consideration for this type of setup that I've seen to be quite effective is to use the nitrous as a progressive early shot setup (ie comes in at the lower revs instead of at what as per most normal nos installs) to counter any lag when using mahoosive turbo installs.

Just a thought that might be worth considering prior to criticising other peoples setup.

[PhotoguyUSA]

Great fabrication there on the exhaust, but poor turbo matching and design. Sorry.

If you're overboosting to that degree, your compressor is too big for the engine. The high end of your engine performance should be getting close to the flow capacity of the comp - if not your dragging round extra inertia and will end up with a laggy throttle response as the penalty. No way should you ever need to run a double wastegate arrangement with a single turbo charger thats properly matched.

I know you American guys like to go for the most massive output possible, and tend to end up with these kind of set ups. A properly matched turbo / engine combination will still be quicker on anything other than oval track because it'll spool quicker and accelerate the car while your still winding up your turbine.


I am sure this will be seen as going against the grain of feeling, but just because something might win at top trumps doesn't necessarily mean its going to be the most efficient thought out solution.

I'll add a couple of things. Yes the pre-shot of Nitrous will help greatly. The first manifold that was fabricated was a bad design for the wastegate, we found that out later on. It was a 90 off of the manifold runners. That is a bad design for a turbo like the Borg Warner series that is so efficient it needs to be at a bit of an angle coming off. Coupled with the lack of back pressure due to the short exhaust. This theory can be debated for decades about turbo exhausts and I wont touch it here. The second wastegate in the new configuration really isnt needed but for the bling value you cant beat it and I figured WTH if I do need its there and it doesnt hurt anything if I dont use it. And trust my this turbo is very well matched for this engine.

I would have went inconel but my pocket isnt THAT deep.

Everything I own is for sale except my wife (sometimes she is too haha) and my kid. Its just if the price is right.

Edited by PhotoguyUSA, 27 November 2009 - 07:29 PM.

[e11evns]

im having a custom inconel system build and it was cheaper than using ti. its a twin silencer system ready for trackdays instead of the bolt on can im using will post when done.

[PhotoguyUSA]

Nice post up picts when you get it done.

I like titanium for the bling as well. It looks so cool after its been "seasoned".

[PhotoguyUSA]

[Rogue Se7ens]

WOW! that is nice. There is a lot of Ti welding involved in that.
Too bad the AZ HIN was canceled, I was really looking forward to see it.

[PhotoguyUSA]

I know Jim I really wanted you to see it. Maybe next year.

[PhotoguyUSA]

Going back on the dyno after the beginning of the year. But, I can finally say that the car is 99% complete. The tuning is the last 1%.

by the way the car is a hoot to drive (a handful) but fun none the less. As far as what Im doing with it. Several offers have come in and I have to say that I am considering all offers as I get more enjoyment out of building them than driving. I dont ever expect to get out of it what I put into it but you never know. But, if I do keep it I will show it for the next year then its a weekend racer. Its been a fun road and learned a lot from the build. I will post up some videos of it moving here soon. If I can help anyone with their VTEC builds please let me know Id be glad to help or tell you what I have learned.

My new project is a 65 Austin Cooper S that I will be doing a 1280 Twin Cam K series head to it, or a 1360 n/a not sure yet. The remaining car will be restored back to its glory days. So far I have 6x10 Cosmics, Les Leston steering wheel, custom walnut dash, Hi Los, Full Newton interior, Lucas Lights etc...now just finding the time. The car doesn't have a matching number engine so Im really not destroying too much of it. It will be a keeper and my weekend driver.

[JordanRaisbeck]

how much pipe in the exhaust? thats the most complicated ive ever seen haha! nice car though pal! love it

[PhotoguyUSA]

Thanks Jordan!