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[Artstu]

Took my mesh out of the throttle body after seeing your post bigchief , wow it makes a big difference, much more responsive and pulls a lot better too

[bigchief3679]

Took my mesh out of the throttle body after seeing your post bigchief , wow it makes a big difference, much more responsive and pulls a lot better too

i'm gonna try it tomorrow without the mesh but after cleaning it a few times i'm really paranoid!!

[jimbob69]

The larger gearbox seems to make it very tight!

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Edited by jimbob69, 11 September 2009 - 08:52 AM.

[bigchief3679]

wow.....i'm impressed by just how much you have picked up from my photos!
does the intake fit?,
the rear mount needs to be VERY stout or it'll twist.
that gbox is alot bigger for sure!
whats left of the right side of the subframe now?

Edited by bigchief3679, 11 September 2009 - 11:59 AM.

[jimbob69]

Theres not much at all left! This is a trial frame and mounts, a bit rushed and rough i know but will be re-made and beefed up using another mint subby after the trial.

Looking at your latest cg13 install my engine may be a little too far over to the right of the car due to the larger box. Its also really tight on the left cv because it looks like the whole lump has to move forward to clear the steering rack due to the larger box. On one pic the engine looks twisted in the frame but its not, camera trickery!

There is no chance of the manifold clearing and im not cutting the car so will fab up a custom one when its in so i can take proper measurements.

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Edited by jimbob69, 11 September 2009 - 12:36 PM.

[Artstu]

i'm gonna try it tomorrow without the mesh but after cleaning it a few times i'm really paranoid!!

I still have the standard air-box, I'm happy to do without for the significant gain it gives. I've never had mesh on any other engine before and never had a problem, for sure that little wire on the MAF needs looking after.

[flying banana]

wow, that engine sure is different! its got coilpacks, crank angle sensor on bell housing, knock sensor, different throttlebody, top feed injectors. jap-spec blacktop CG's are alot simpler but glad 2 c u started! good going

do you think im going to have trouble because it is so new ?
i hope not. its a 51 plate engine only done 8500 miles
andy

[bigchief3679]

wow, that engine sure is different! its got coilpacks, crank angle sensor on bell housing, knock sensor, different throttlebody, top feed injectors. jap-spec blacktop CG's are alot simpler but glad 2 c u started! good going

do you think im going to have trouble because it is so new ?
i hope not. its a 51 plate engine only done 8500 miles
andy

not at all, the newer the better right? just make an effort to research the differences, advantages and technology of this newer engine. as far as i know you can always retrofit the ignition, ecu and fuel system from the 'distributed' version of this engine if things get too hairy!! good luck and carry on!!!!

just some shots from the install, we sized down some rover K-series headers to fit by cutting off the flanges and first bolting them to the head:





we ended up with this:







the pipes are then adjusted for fit and tacked in position before removing. after preliminary welding:



this is how well they fit the block:




note that these headers are not equal length so the pipes containing cylinders 2 and 3 come together a longer way down below the engine to make up for it . we removed the bulky rover flange too, they sound really great when the throttle is> half open, otherwise the car is really quiet!!

Edited by bigchief3679, 12 September 2009 - 01:52 AM.

[Artstu]

Your making progress Jimbob, what's stopping you moving the engine 2" further over to the nearside?

Bigchief

How much bigger is our UK gearbox compared to bigchiefs? it is really difficult to tell from the photos. I'm told our pre98 1.0L models have the smaller box, driveshafts and CV joints, guessing this could well be the small type you have over in Trinidad.

[jimbob69]

If i move the whole thing over 2" then it would either catch the cv on the frame which is solved by moving the engine back but then it would hit the steering rack

My gearbox is 13" wide from bellhousing face to the edge of the casting , 18.5" front of bellhousing to back of the diff and has 3" diameter output pots so how does that compare guys?

[flying banana]

If i move the whole thing over 2" then it would either catch the cv on the frame which is solved by moving the engine back but then it would hit the steering rack

My gearbox is 13" wide from bellhousing face to the edge of the casting , 18.5" front of bellhousing to back of the diff and has 3" diameter output pots so how does that compare guys?

hi mate you say you have a large gear box, what year is yours. i have a 51 plate and im having problems getting
mine in subframe, ive cut it,put supports in to keep it square, now i have to cut the top cross brace off again(between turrets) because inlet wont fit, because gearbox needs to go lower just to line up drive shafts, not much left of subframe now .

[jimbob69]

flying banana have a read of page 9 of this thread as there was some gearbox talk. Looks like we get larger R5 boxes here not the smaller U5. My engine came from a 94 car so they may well be different. Put up a few pics and measurements so we can compare notes!
As for the inlet im gonna make my own as the standard one is huge, tried offering mine up and as you say it gets in the way a little!
I dare say the R5 box will fit though so im not giving up yet however i do keep trawling ebay for cube boxes! and the local breakers always seems to have a few micras in so

[Artstu]

I had thought this was the same inlet manifold as ours? bigchief gets it to fit OK, I could be wrong though.

[jimbob69]

Yes i believe it is the same and will fit with bulkhead mods. I dont want to chop my bulkhead tho fella so gonna have to be creative later on

[Artstu]

I was under the impression the bulkhead mod was very minor compared to his earlier conversions, perhaps bigchief has a photo somewhere.

Edit I can see the quite hefty bulkhead mods now, but they are from the previous conversion I believe.

Edited by Plastic rules, 18 September 2009 - 10:31 AM.