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#1 Confused?

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Posted 30 March 2007 - 04:58 PM

....put an uno turbo engine in a mini before?? (if u ask me "why?", then u dont know how quick these engines are :- )

i had a mk2 uno turbo before i had my rx7 (and before i got my mini)

ive seen people puttin stupid engines in minis, one mate had a 182bhp vtex, another mate is doing a vtec, another 2 are doing 2L vauxhall lumps....now i want to be a bit different thats part of the "why" aswell by the way. also the fact that as standard the 1372cc garret t2 mk2 lump is 118bhp, and with a filter, zorst, adjustable fpr and a few boost tweeks it runs 140-150bhp easily (good for about 220bhp per ton in a mini in my estimations)

now i think that would be quite fun in a mini with a fiberglass front end, 2 buckets, cage, hi-los and 7x13s.... :goaway:

The uno turbo mk2 1372cc lump is the same block to the punto turbo so if anyones done this, it'll fit with my ideas.

so i just would like to know if anyones done it, or heard anyone try to do it (and failing and if so, why?)

cheers !

j

Edited by Confused?, 30 March 2007 - 04:59 PM.


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Posted 30 March 2007 - 09:49 PM

Why not just use a standard (ish) mini turbo and save yourself loads of money and time modifying a subframe!?

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Posted 30 March 2007 - 11:19 PM

1.4 K-16. Naturally aspirated runs at 105bhp.
Its also a British built engine, So things are straight forward, not like the bright ideas they come up with at Fiat.

Alright its different, And I respect your thoughts on that. But if your mates are going all out Vtec and Vaux. Then why don't you think about the 1.8VHPD or the 1.8VVC. Both VERY fast responsive engines which are good for 160bhp+ standard.

There is also a frame on the market for the K-series engine, so it will be a more straight forward build.


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Posted 30 March 2007 - 11:40 PM

(cause i also have an engine) :-

and i like the naughty lil Italian engine. the metro turbos arent reliable enough on boost as i like them to be, a mate had one and he was forever rebuilding it (in fact i think he could do it whilst asleep)

i take it you guys dont think its been done before then?

if not the italian 1.4 turbo, what other turbo'd engines would you recommend? if u say r5 engine i'll hunt you down :goaway:


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Posted 31 March 2007 - 08:52 AM

At the end of the day, its your car and your choice. If you have the motor, and the know how to do it then go for it! there always has to be a first person to try these things, otherwise there wouldnt be all the conversions available because no one will have tried it. Plus if it works, you can sell the pattern for the frame to people such as allspeed etc :-

and as you say they are damn fast motors! We had a punto turbo in stock trim before the bini, well stock other than a dumpvalve and filter! and that was fast and as you say, reliable on boost. we never had any problems with this car because we kept it serviced, we only got rid because the missus had an accident in it!

there you go, my two pennies worth! although it may just be a load of dribble, but hopefully you can see what im gettin at lol

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Posted 31 March 2007 - 01:09 PM

Or do the easy conversion of fitting a K-Series 1.4 and putting a turbo on that. . . ?


and before you laugh, 197bhp has already been proven on nothing more than compression work via head and gaskets, intercooler and 1bar boost.

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Posted 31 March 2007 - 02:22 PM

I'd say do it! Be different, its gotta be worth a go. I knew of someone that had an uno turbo lump in a fibreglass kit car thing, rapid and reliable, took a lot of stick. The 'k' is a good engine, but its been done, be good to see something new on the engine conversion front.

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Posted 31 March 2007 - 02:52 PM

Or do the easy conversion of fitting a K-Series 1.4 and putting a turbo on that. . . ?


and before you laugh, 197bhp has already been proven on nothing more than compression work via head and gaskets, intercooler and 1bar boost.


hmmm, sounds interesting....what rovers have the 1400 kseries then? or would a 1600 k series with a turbo manifold fit?

also, what turbo manifold will fit the 1400/1600 k series blocks?

i have the engine, loom, driveshafts, gear linkages et al to do the uno turbo conversion so that does make more sense and i do like being different, i was the 1st (as far as i know) person in europe, if not the whole world (oooh get me) to figure how to do the Megasquirt Standalone EFI system on an Uno turbo (basically the afm is binned and the wires put to the pins on the efi ecu, alone with an additional AIT sensor, Lambda sensor, and a cossie TPS) and now theres 4 or 5 in the world (and mine died and was sold and now is proper dead, so god only knows where it is - ive treid to find it, but to no avail :- )


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Posted 01 April 2007 - 11:15 AM

I have an uno turbo and its miles more refined then the rover C**p i love driving it comes on boost at 2,500 all the way to 7,000 at 0.5 bar of boost its good for 130 wind it up bore it out to 1500 and change the inlet and turn boost up to 1.5 bar and you are well in excess of 200bhp with an engine that weight 3/4 the weight of the a series block.

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 02:23 PM

woohooo a UT nutter like me! :xxx:

change the inlet? i was just gonna try and put a cossie TB on it when i go MS EFI on it. would have to cut the mk2 TB off and ally weld the cossie on on but still...

do u reckon the ut lump will fit in the mini? the gearbox is bigger than the 2L vauxhall lumps i think. the blocks thinner and has both inlet and exhaust (inc turbo) on the rear of the engine so depth wise i think it will be ok, its just the width. :)

steve, got any pics of ur UT? have u done anything to it?


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Posted 01 April 2007 - 06:47 PM

As the gearbox is the same as the tipo it is on the rather large side but and this is a good but the driveshafts on the uno turbo are exactly the same length so you don't really get torque steer and this will also make it easier to fit in the mini and the engines height is a lot lower then a vauxy lump i have a nova turbo van which im now scrapping ill take some piccys of the uno tommorrow its been resprayed and lots of other bits steve

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 10:13 PM

what u doin with the engine from the nova turbo?? are u on fiat forum or turbo collective?? most the ut owners know each other or know of each other in the uk because theres so few of them (us)

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Posted 10 April 2007 - 02:08 PM

in a similar way I was sitting in the living room and looking at my 16V turbo fiatcoupe thats just failed its MOT and pondered ' would it fit in a mini?'

havnt got the tape measure out yet but I'm pretty sure it would as the lump isnt much bigger than a vauxhall 2.0L 16V, and turbo is positioned fairly nicely, just the gearbox and drive-train would be the sticky bit.

I have asked around if anyone has used fiat 16V turbo lumps and no reply - shame as the engines are ballistic and cost peanuts.

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Posted 10 April 2007 - 02:52 PM

Sorry for the hijack (but I'm admin so I can! :!:), what did the Fiat fail on? Looking to get rid of cheap?! :P

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Posted 10 April 2007 - 06:58 PM

Sorry for the hijack (but I'm admin so I can! :thumbsup:), what did the Fiat fail on? Looking to get rid of cheap?! :P



youve got to stop breaking your own rules ! :!:

it failed on ABS sensor - thats it! since then airbag light has come on and right turn indicator has become intermittant. Its the blue fiat I was driving when i picked up the engine from you.

goes like a demon, lots of new parts over the last 6 months and comes with spares.

It'd make a good substitute to that MR2 that you had. price of car to you - very cheap. 600 quid.

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