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[Manb2ndb]

Hi,

 

I think i have made a mistake, but hoping to tap into your knowledge about my situation.

 

I have bought some 5x10 Mamba wheels, offset 0, with yoko A032R 165/70/10 tyres. I have 7.5 minispares disc conversion kit on front (no spacers) and a fresh new drum setup on rear with spaced minifins.

 

When i put the wheels on the front, i thought, oh they stick out a bit, but i reckon i could get away with it. The thing is I've just completed one side at the rear, put the wheel on and it sticks a good amount outside the arches. I think i have painted standard arches?

 

I'm ok with the fronts but i think the rears are not good in the eyes of a policeman.

 

What are my options?

 

1. use non-spaced minifin drums to reduce the offset on the rear, but wouldn't i have issues with track width? i.e front being 4" overall wider than rear?

 

2. change wheels to wheels with a positive offset like....... https://www.minispor...lished-rim.html.........with offset of 12? or do i need bigger offset?

 

or 3. am i doing something wrong?

 

What's confusing is that i read on the forum that theses wheels/tyres fit under the standard arches? 

 

im also confused with this...

 

https://www.theminif...l1800-full-mot/ he had same setup?

 

 

i appreciate you help in advance,

 

thanks

 

Nathan

 

1987 Mini Mayfair

 

 

[Lplus]

1 - That would be a 25mm change per side which would look odd and might invlove touching the shocks at the rear.

 

2 - I have 5x10 GB wheels with offset 14 and they're just inside the arches at the front - helped by some negative camber.  I'm using 19mm spacers at the back on standard drums with longer studs and again they're just inside the arches - again with negative camber.  The rears would be ok with proper 25mm spaced drums but the 6mm difference is unnoticable.

 

3 - nope, no obvious error there - those wheels just need wider arches.

[Manb2ndb]

thanks Lplus that's really helpful,

 

the chap i bought them from had them on an MPI mini and the pictures he sent me looked fine, maybe they were not. it looks like he may have bo

 

I've seen the GB wheels i don't mind them at all. Gutted though as i had my mind set on the mambas

 

Do you think its because the mambas are for a drums all round mini, an older mini?

[Blumeanie]

thanks Lplus that's really helpful,

 

the chap i bought them from had them on an MPI mini and the pictures he sent me looked fine, maybe they were not. it looks like he may have bo

 

I've seen the GB wheels i don't mind them at all. Gutted though as i had my mind set on the mambas

 

Do you think its because the mambas are for a drums all round mini, an older mini?

 

Hi Manb2ndb. 
Would you be able to pass along the pictures of the MPI mini with those wheels?
I want to go to 10", but I also do not want to get the wrong wheel offset - I need the poke to fill the big MPI arches!

Thank you!

[Lplus]

thanks Lplus that's really helpful,

 

the chap i bought them from had them on an MPI mini and the pictures he sent me looked fine, maybe they were not. it looks like he may have bo

 

I've seen the GB wheels i don't mind them at all. Gutted though as i had my mind set on the mambas

 

Do you think its because the mambas are for a drums all round mini, an older mini?

Since Mambas have been around for a very long ttime, I suspect that was the use they were designed for.  The minilights you mentioned might well do the job if you prefer them - I don't think the 2 mm difference in ET compared to the GBs would be noticable.

[Manb2ndb]

yeah im thinking the guy i bought them from maybe used the non spaced drums at rear. There is a noticeable track width difference front to rear. I suspect the reason for selling them was as per my troubles.

 

The photos that he sent me are here Bluemeanie. these might suit you. Its likely im selling them after i get new ones as i cant see a way out if this. im gutted as i love the look of the black mambas.

 

I would just like to say he was a lovely chap, and if he is on here and wants the pics removed, I'm happy to do so. i believe his is a MPI jap import

 

[imack]

The seller has different arches to yours. They look like group 2's

[Manb2ndb]

i did think that, i guess they are bigger than my ones

[Cooperman]

The Group 2 wheel arch extensions come in two widths - 1.5” & 2.5”.
I run a set of 5” x 10” BWA allows and don’t have arch extensions, the offset being as standard Cooper S.

[timmy850]

I think your high ride height and positive camber make it look worse than it could be with an alignment?

[Manb2ndb]

the back wheel in my pic is jacked up off the ground, its similar when lowered. with it aligned I'm sure it would improve a bit, but probably not enough

[Cooperman]

The rear suspension moves vertically with no camber change.
I think your wheels have too much offset to work with those arch extensions. Ideally get some wheels with less offset.

[Manb2ndb]

thanks cooperman, the mambas i have have 0 offset, so something like the superlite with 14mm+ offset will help. 

 

I could used a non spared drum to take an inch off, but i dont like the idea of a big track width difference between the front and rear.

[Cooperman]

Your wheels would be good for a 998 with drum brakes, but with S fronts they are always going to stick out a lot. They will also put excessive loads on the wheel bearings and ‘screw up’ the steering geometry. Sorry to bring bad news, but I rather think you knew already.

[Manb2ndb]

yep i did, oh well, new alloys it is. id rather do things right, thanks for your input

 

do you have any suggestions for s front brakes and what i think are standard arches? so far i have minilite, superlite and GB alloys with 12-14mm positive offset. Would these options still put excessive loads on the bearings?