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Best Answer nicklouse , 28 January 2025 - 12:51 PM

You are looking at a parts diagram not fitting info.

 

the raised parts go into the hole that is the same size.

 

the lower one for some reason is not shown in the image.

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#1 orac69

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Posted 28 January 2025 - 11:34 AM

Hi guys,  I have a really dumb question.   Easy with me please, im not a mechanic and this is my first mini to work on!  SPi, '94 by the way.

 

Ive been replacing the donuts, trumpets, shocks with new hi-los and knuckles.    Of course I have had to take out the tower bolts to compress the donuts.

 

One of the bolts had just 3 washers, no rubber, the bolt the other side had the correct 1 washer, and 1 (torn/destroyed) rubber bush - thanks previous owner...

 

Anyways, I was going to buy 2 new bushes from minispares, but I have a real dumb question;

 

Does the smaller "sticking out" part of the rubber bush face downwards into the hole, or up towards the bolt head.   Im thinking it has to be down into the hole, BUT the parts diagram on minisport I used to confirm the part number, seems to show it the other way up...  See number 15 on the parts diagram.

 

...I just like to make sure things are done properly.

 

Thanks

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#2 stuart bowes

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Posted 28 January 2025 - 11:39 AM

I think what it's showing you there is the rubber underneath, no 14 is the one on top

So yes the lip goes into the crossmember but upwards, from below

It may not be that shape though, i thought the rubber ones were more diamond shaped.  wondering if that one you've circled is the solid mount type ?  you don't want to mix and match them, all one or all the other


Edited by stuart bowes, 28 January 2025 - 12:02 PM.


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Posted 28 January 2025 - 12:51 PM   Best Answer

You are looking at a parts diagram not fitting info.

 

the raised parts go into the hole that is the same size.

 

the lower one for some reason is not shown in the image.



#4 stuart bowes

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Posted 28 January 2025 - 01:10 PM

this diagram is a bit more useful

 

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so 15 looks like the metal washer, 16 is the upper rubber, but for some reason is shown upside down, and 17 is the diamond shaped one I was talking about that goes underneath

 

confused me because the solid mount ones are all just circular in shape (with the exception of the uppers ones having one flat edge to make space for the corner bracing)

 

as nick says they're not always accurate as 'fitting instructions'


Edited by stuart bowes, 28 January 2025 - 01:13 PM.


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Posted 28 January 2025 - 01:19 PM

Thanks, just as I thought. Both of those parts diagram show the round upper rubber bush upside down!   Sorted.


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Posted 28 January 2025 - 01:27 PM

So are "fitting info" documents / diagrams a thing?   Where would you find such info....?

 

You are looking at a parts diagram not fitting info.

 

the raised parts go into the hole that is the same size.

 

the lower one for some reason is not shown in the image.



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Posted 28 January 2025 - 01:43 PM

haynes, or the workshop manual

 

a lot of it is common sense though really, I think you already knew which way was right or you wouldn't have asked

 

other things are more technical with torque settings and stuff that's when you refer to a manual



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Posted 28 January 2025 - 03:35 PM

The diagram's main purpose is to help you identify the part, so it'll show the view with the most detail & might only show a part used multiple times once.

 

The rubbers are intended to isolate the body from the subframe & bolt, which is fixed firmly to the subframe by the screw threads. The raised bits go inside the body aperture to locate the bolt centrally so stick up on the bottom rubber & down on the top one.



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Posted 28 January 2025 - 07:38 PM

 

So are "fitting info" documents / diagrams a thing?   Where would you find such info....?

 

You are looking at a parts diagram not fitting info.

 

the raised parts go into the hole that is the same size.

 

the lower one for some reason is not shown in the image.

 

Workshop manual.

 

note the images on most parts site for the rear subframe front mount are also wrong.



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Posted 30 January 2025 - 08:45 AM

A general tip: The subframe bushings all work together and should have the same flexibility. So always replace No. 17, 12, and 15 together. Ideally, convert everything to metal. If one of the bushings is softer than the others, the load won't be evenly distributed, which could lead to cracks or other damage on the shell.

 



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Posted 12 February 2025 - 10:06 AM

what do people think of this kit from Minispares?  Mixes the bushing types.... I

 

 

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