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[Spider]

Things are different is some countries, this was one journalist's experience
 

I drove an electric car from Sydney to Melbourne. This is what I learned about using EVs in a country as large and unforgiving as Australia - and what you need to know before buying one

• I drove Hyundai's Ioniq 5 from Sydney to Melbourne
• In total, I spent $210 and three-and-a-half hours 'powering up'
• The same journey costs me $140 in petrol - a $70 fuel stop each way

https://www.dailymai...nsive-slow.html

 

(Sydney > Melbourne is about 880 km / 500 miles)

[Ethel]

We are paying wind companies millions a week not to generate.No axe grinding here,just saying.Steve..

 

There's a political argument in there on the funding, but renewables will need some over capacity to ensure we can keep the lights on. In the long run we could soak up the excess with things like green hydrogen production, hydro-electric...

 

When we smelt our own steel again, perhaps they could build in the flexibility to run the furnaces when there's surplus energy and process the scrap when there isn't.

[Designer]

When we smelt our own steel again, perhaps they could build in the flexibility to run the furnaces when there's surplus energy and process the scrap when there isn't.

 

I can't see that ever happening. The existing furnaces will be demolished and the site will eventually be marked as brown field site for house building. Hell of a cost though probably for decontamination.

The cost of building new furnaces would no doubt be more than that cost.

 

 

Paddy

[john2502]

Im totally confused by new cars, the fleet in our household run from 1981 to 2004 and i really cant see the need for anything different. The historic class ones do us for everything really.

 

Not against anyone who has moderns but my only question is why?

 

Not specific to electric cars of course but for some safety is a concern of course. There's no denying car safety has improved over the years, for a good example type Chevy Malibu vs Bel Air crash test into youtube. Yes car's have gotten much bigger and unnecessarily so, but still, some of this are crumple zones (am not totally defending this though).

 

I often think on my drive into work in the mini if the HGV lorries going past me on the 60mph country lanes would even realise they'd hit me as i crumpled into nothing. haha

 

[84 City E]

 

Im totally confused by new cars, the fleet in our household run from 1981 to 2004 and i really cant see the need for anything different. The historic class ones do us for everything really.

 

Not against anyone who has moderns but my only question is why?

 

Not specific to electric cars of course but for some safety is a concern of course. There's no denying car safety has improved over the years, for a good example type Chevy Malibu vs Bel Air crash test into youtube. Yes car's have gotten much bigger and unnecessarily so, but still, some of this are crumple zones (am not totally defending this though).

 

I often think on my drive into work in the mini if the HGV lorries going past me on the 60mph country lanes would even realise they'd hit me as i crumpled into nothing. haha

 

 

I think if safety was a consideration none of us would ever get into any old cars let alone a mini

[sonscar]

Imagine writing a risk assessment for an industrial process that involved thousands of tonnes of unsecured metal passing by unrestrained and differing abilities of the public.Steve..

[Chris1275gt]

I’ve always thought when one considers the time and energy spent making an engine and gearbox as opposed to a simple 2 a penny electric motor why are they so expensive. I imagine they would say the batteries but with so much material for the batteries being readily available it can’t be that expensive, and half of them are still Chelsea tractors!

[mab01uk]

I have often heard it said that Global Lithium reserves available for use in EV batteries are likely to run into shortages in the not to distant future....and most of what is available is shipped to China.
 

[Shooter63]

I’ve always thought when one considers the time and energy spent making an engine and gearbox as opposed to a simple 2 a penny electric motor why are they so expensive. I imagine they would say the batteries but with so much material for the batteries being readily available it can’t be that expensive, and half of them are still Chelsea tractors!

You are correct, companies charge what they believe a country will except, an example, the BYD Atto 3 in China is around £15,000 over here the price will be around £38,000 go figure.

Shooter

[Steam]

I notice that world governments do not go after the airline and shipping industries about their use of fossil fuel and emissions. Do the uses restrict aircraft flights over those same areas?

[mab01uk]

I notice that world governments do not go after the airline and shipping industries about their use of fossil fuel and emissions. Do the uses restrict aircraft flights over those same areas?

 

Despite the huge climate impact, air pollution and adverse noise effects burning fossil fuel in planes causes, jet fuel is zero-rated for fuel duty, meaning it is effectively untaxed....

 

How much revenue could have been raised for the UK Government if fuel duty was applied to jet fuel:-

https://www.transpor...-Fuel-Taxes.pdf

Edited by mab01uk, 08 October 2024 - 02:44 PM.

[Shooter63]

I notice that world governments do not go after the airline and shipping industries about their use of fossil fuel and emissions. Do the uses restrict aircraft flights over those same areas?

 
Despite the huge climate impact, air pollution and adverse noise effects burning fossil fuel in planes causes, jet fuel is zero-rated for fuel duty, meaning it is effectively untaxed....
 
How much revenue could have been raised for the UK Government if fuel duty was applied to jet fuel:-
https://www.transpor...-Fuel-Taxes.pdf

That should just about pay to reinstate the pensioners cold weather payment, ( apologies for the politics there)

Shooter