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[colinf1]

Does anyone have any specs or installation guidelines for the Victor reinz type headgasket?

I've reached out to the directly, but no response yet.

Do I torque it like a copper gasket? or like a composite Payen type?

Any help greatly appreciated!

[eric67]

Keith Calver recommends applying Loctite 3020 to the Victor Reinz gasket. I don’t know why the torque would be different as it needs to suit the studs but please post if you find the answer.

[Icey]

I’ve been using them on the 998 for a couple of years now, nothing special about the as far as I can tell. I did buy a can of the Loctite 3020 on Keith’s recommendation.

[68+86auto]

I used the procedure in a 1980s Rover manual a few months ago and have had no issues since.

[colinf1]

Cheers everyone, just wanted to be sure before torquing it down.

[johnv]

Keith Calver recommends applying Loctite 3020 to the Victor Reinz gasket. I don’t know why the torque would be different as it needs to suit the studs but please post if you find the answer.

Both sides?

[eric67]

 

Keith Calver recommends applying Loctite 3020 to the Victor Reinz gasket. I don’t know why the torque would be different as it needs to suit the studs but please post if you find the answer.

Both sides?

 

Yes, it comes in a spray can and he applies it to both sides.

[gaspen]

 For your interest 

 

 

Edited by gaspen, 26 November 2024 - 07:47 AM.

[Rubbershorts]

 For your interest 

 

 

Thanks for that video. Just about to embark on my first head gasket change so really useful. It has got me worried though as I've just ordered the BK450 from Minispares to carry this out. It was recommended by their sales guy for my standard 1275. Should I be thinking of using the Loctite on this gasket. Bearing in mind I only semi-know what I'm doing, and don't want to have to repeat the job again if I can help it. Daz.

[Spider]

Every head gasket, except for solid copper and Cometic, I've ever had has heat release sealant already on them.

[gaspen]

Every head gasket, except for solid copper and Cometic, I've ever had has heat release sealant already on them.

 

Do you mean it is not necessary the application of Loctite ? 

 

I had to remove the head on my 998 and installed a Victor Reinz gasket but without Loctite. 

 

It had a copper gasket before and I saw a little oil mist around the gasket. It is not a daily, rolled only ~1500km 

 

Now with the VR gasket there is no oil mist - yet

[sonikk4]

Every head gasket, except for solid copper and Cometic, I've ever had has heat release sealant already on them.

 
Do you mean it is not necessary the application of Loctite ? 
 
I had to remove the head on my 998 and installed a Victor Reinz gasket but without Loctite. 
 
It had a copper gasket before and I saw a little oil mist around the gasket. It is not a daily, rolled only ~1500km 
 
Now with the VR gasket there is no oil mist - yet

When I installed a Copper hg on my 998 Clubby after having done some maintenance work there was oil seepage on several places of the hg.

Now I had checked the head for flatness and the block deck with no noticeable issues. Please bear in mind the head and block had not been touched other than cleaning.

The car drove fine with no noticeable decrease in oil level just this damned seepage.

After a quick msg to MS as they provided the hg kit they sent in what I believe was a Payen hg. Installed this and dry as a bone.

So the copper hg was torqued correctly and retorqued after one full heat cycle. I even checked it again before replacing it to see if anything had changed and everything was within specs.

So with this in mind and having seen multiple posts not only on TMF but on FB the consensus seems to be that both the head face and block need to be 100% true by re facing then the Copper hg should work fine?

Hopefully you will get your issue sorted. As for the OP, if Keith Calver says to use whatever I would say listen to the man as this sort of thing is his bread and butter.

[Spider]

Every head gasket, except for solid copper and Cometic, I've ever had has heat release sealant already on them.

 

Do you mean it is not necessary the application of Loctite ? 

 

I had to remove the head on my 998 and installed a Victor Reinz gasket but without Loctite. 

 

It had a copper gasket before and I saw a little oil mist around the gasket. It is not a daily, rolled only ~1500km 

 

Now with the VR gasket there is no oil mist - yet

 

 

For what ever it's worth, this is ACL's information and advice. Note in particular their advice regarding sealants and torque on page 3;-

 

 

 

[1984mini25]

Sometime in the near future I've got a head swap on a 998, in the hope that a completely refurbished (new valve guides, seals and valve seats etc) will stop the excessive oil consumption (100 miles to a pint at best) and blue smoke.

I'm hoping it's the head/valve guides, as the smoke (which it has been doing for a while) is on first start from cold (worse if been sat for a week or more) and on gear changes/overrun.
Or it could be the copper head gasket? (Head gasket and valve seals replaced not that many miles ago) As I've only got excessive amounts of oil/fouled plug on the one cylinder.

But, I was intending on using the BGA composite head gasket, would I be best off using the loctite 3020 as well?

Also in the instructions it says to torque, loosen off 90degress/retorque. Run up to temp with coolant, allow to cool, loosen 90degress and retorque.

Or would I be better running without coolant? Fine on a fresh build, but as I don't plan on fully draining the radiator (I'll drain it from the water pump to below the head) Would leaving what coolant is left, and running without the alternator belt so the water pumps not turning be ok?

Edited by 1984mini25, 26 November 2024 - 06:15 PM.

[gaspen]

 

Every head gasket, except for solid copper and Cometic, I've ever had has heat release sealant already on them.

 

Do you mean it is not necessary the application of Loctite ? 

 

I had to remove the head on my 998 and installed a Victor Reinz gasket but without Loctite. 

 

It had a copper gasket before and I saw a little oil mist around the gasket. It is not a daily, rolled only ~1500km 

 

Now with the VR gasket there is no oil mist - yet

 

 

For what ever it's worth, this is ACL's information and advice. Note in particular their advice regarding sealants and torque on page 3;-

 

 

 

"When replacing a cylinder head gasket additional sealing compound is required only when explicitly specified by the manufacturer."

 

https://www.victorre...e-Analysis.aspx