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#16 68+86auto

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Posted Yesterday, 10:45 AM

93 mini 998 carb with, as far as I know, standard steady bar brackets.
Bushes are standard rubber from mini spares and have been in a couple of years with the sleeves fitted

 

They are probably just worn/defective. Most don't seem to last long at all.


Edited by 68+86auto, Yesterday, 10:45 AM.


#17 gazza82

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Posted Yesterday, 11:18 AM

The rubber used today is not as good as the stuff used in 70s/80s. Probably why people resort to poly bushes.

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Posted Yesterday, 05:03 PM

Play vs movement, good point. I guess most of the movement is the rubber as it compresses when the bar moves, but even though the bolt in the engine block is tight the bush still seems a bit loose?
Are there meant to be any washers on the engine block side?


There should be a large penny washer fitted between the block and the bush. Penny washer diameter should be the same as the largest diameter of the bush.

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Posted Yesterday, 05:38 PM

I thought that I had seen reference to a washer somewhere but I can't find anything on any of the parts manuals online, was it standard? It might take out some of the play

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Posted Yesterday, 06:07 PM

Pre 1970 cars had a tear drop shaped washer, item 91. 1970 onwards cars have a large penny washer, item 110.

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#21 Chris1275gt

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Posted Yesterday, 06:11 PM

I bought some Nos rover bushes they are totally different from the ones available from retailers now, not as hard, a lot more rubbery. Been on the car for a year now with a decrease in vibration.

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Posted Yesterday, 07:05 PM

the polyurethane bushes that DSN retrosport use with their steadies seem ok; firm but pliable like the rubber ones and holding up well on my car after a couple of years use

 

https://s-can.co.uk/...s-polyurethane/

 

i suspect what a lot of what is marketed out there as 'poly' bushes are made of polypropylene



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Posted Today, 01:54 AM

Pre 1970 cars had a tear drop shaped washer, item 91. 1970 onwards cars have a large penny washer, item 110.

 

my 1986 has item 91.

All my others have the solenoid bracket there instead.



#24 Lplus

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Posted Today, 09:49 AM

Pre 1970 cars had a tear drop shaped washer, item 91. 1970 onwards cars have a large penny washer, item 110.

The item description on the Someford site also includes  "if fitted"  so some may not need it. Having just checked my 1275 engine I notice the rear coreplug recess on the end of the engine may be encroaching on the bush bearing area, so that's a job I'll need to do.  Since the core plugs aren't the same on a smaller engine it may not be necessary on those.



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Posted Today, 05:07 PM

My car is originally a 72 mini 1000, I've owned it since 1984. It had the large penny washer in 1984 when it still had it's original 998 engine. As you've mentioned, on a 1275 block the bush will deform into the core plug recess without the washer fitted.

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Posted Today, 06:25 PM

My car is originally a 72 mini 1000, I've owned it since 1984. It had the large penny washer in 1984 when it still had it's original 998 engine. As you've mentioned, on a 1275 block the bush will deform into the core plug recess without the washer fitted.

I also have a 1098 engine but the car is stored nearby and I'll wait for better weather to check it.






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