One Carb Or Two?
Posted 08 January 2023 - 04:28 PM
The people commenting here and calling it all nonsense need to go and read the whole story. Some of what’s happened may be nonsense, but not all of it. It’s worth reading, just to realise that it’s never going to be an issue for the majority.
Edited by PoolGuy, 08 January 2023 - 04:29 PM.
Starting My Mini Up
Posted 21 January 2023 - 12:38 PM
Hi , I read about your DVLA problem else where ( Forum rules prevent me from expressing exactly how I feel towards these bureaucrats) . Have I understood it correctly ..Is It "Because they classified it as a Rebuilt Vehicle they were able to fail it under tiny changes in the body shell ? " Does that put in jeopardy nearly everyone who gave their classic a bare metal respray, if it has had any change ( a hole drilled in the inner wing 40 years ago for the radio arial )? The insanity is also the ban on the Right to Correct the things they don't like. .. 99% of Rebuilt Vehicles were rebuilt to repair the body shell, so usually will have been welded & mainly to a better standard than year by year MOT patches , but once inspected you can;t do more repair ! Also those changes to the body may have not affected its strength at all. After Decades of concern that EU safety rules would stop classic cars it seems the is UK driven ! I will sign your petition. Good Luck .
One Carb Or Two?
Posted 13 May 2023 - 04:44 PM
Received an email today from Recharged Heritage saying that they were about to start work on their first customer conversion.
Thought I 'd take a look at their website which has been updated since the last time I visited.
Scrolling down I noticed it stated that their conversions were 'DVLA approved'.
I had a look a video on their main page which concerned a mini they did for Chris Rea which showed a cable tray being installed along the length of the underside. Now assuming this wasn't attached with 'No Nails' and would have required mounting holes?
So what is different about the vehicles they produce and the vehicle that the OP had converted?
Up Into Fourth
Posted 13 May 2023 - 07:19 PM
One Carb Or Two?
Posted 13 May 2023 - 10:08 PM
The truth is that it depends on who you get, I had a car where it came with no V5C but was on the data base and I had the reg number and chassis number, however, the chassis number on the car ended in 5 and the DVLA had it ending in 6. To make matters worse the reg number was on the heritage certificate but they had a C wher the actual reg had a G.
I had a very negative responce until I spoke to one person and laid it all out, a 5 could be mistaken for a 6 when they computerised the records and how likely is it that two identical cars with chassis numbers one digit apart had reg numbers that were identical apart from one character which meant one would have been registered in London and the other in Leeds (if I remember correctly).
He agreed and the next thing I had a new logbook with the correct chassis number, it just depends on who you get and how reasonable they are (and perhaps how you approach/speak to them).
One Carb Or Two?
Posted 14 May 2023 - 07:32 AM
The people commenting here and calling it all nonsense need to go and read the whole story. Some of what’s happened may be nonsense, but not all of it. It’s worth reading, just to realise that it’s never going to be an issue for the majority.
Where can I find the whole story?
One Carb Or Two?
Posted 14 May 2023 - 07:43 AM
The MK1 forum has the ‘whole’ story, if you can face it.
One Carb Or Two?
Posted 14 May 2023 - 03:20 PM
Yes I read through that when the topic dropped..
Wondered if there was more to discover.
Moved Into The Garage
Posted 10 December 2024 - 12:47 PM
Related to this topic from a while back on a Mini EV conversion, some interesting points are made in a recent podcast with Moggy from 'Vintage Voltage' where he is discussing what the DVLA guidelines on EV conversion are and states that when he’s asked for clarification on permitted modifications to chassis or monocoque bodyshells, the DVLA informed him that even bolting a roll cage into your car should require an IVA and a Q plate. He also gives as another example that the DVLA include things like fitting seat belts into a classic car that did not originally have any by drilling holes and fitting or welding spreader plates requires an IVA and a Q plate. He says the reason EV conversions get picked up by the DVLA is because when changing the V5 from petrol to electric (although DVLA tax classification stays as petrol) it triggers an inspection, whereupon any additional welding or drilled holes in the original monocoque gets picked up. He goes on to say the only reason every rally or road car with a weld-in or bolted in roll cage is not on a Q plate is because no change request has ever been made to the V5 logbook which is what would trigger a DVLA inspection...
IVA & Q Plates is discussed when 31 minutes of the 1h 12min podcast linked below remains. You can fast forward to that point if required.
Converting Classic Cars to EV - Is It Worth the Hate? | Ep 42 | Drive Torque Podcast:-
https://podcasts.app...i=1000677893801
As has often been said beware what you say when contacting the DVLA if you feel the need to make any changes to a V5 as you may open a can of worms....
Edited by mab01uk, 10 December 2024 - 12:56 PM.
Mini Mad
Posted 10 December 2024 - 03:07 PM
https://www.gov.uk/g...-built vehicles
DVLA have actually just put the responses up to their 'call for evidence'
One Carb Or Two?
Posted 10 December 2024 - 03:14 PM
Wow, they got a pretty poor response.
Stage One Kit Fitted
Posted 10 December 2024 - 09:07 PM
As some of you know, I restored a 1960 Mini ditching the 850cc engine for an electric motor.[/size]
Unfortunately, DVLA said that because I drilled holes in the boot, it is now a modified kit-car.[/size]
They couldn't fault the conversion, but due to the holes my car needs an IVA test which it could never pass.[/size]
They refused to allow the holes to be welded up so this is terminal, the car is scrap.[/size]
With their success applying old rules in this new way to conversions, I cannot see what is stopping them being applied to anything frowned upon by the DVLA. [/size]
So please, I ask you to sign this petition which I hope will end this threat[/size]
I also humbly ask you to spread the word by forwarding it to anyone you know who may care.[/size]
Many thanks[/size]
Ed[/size]
https://petition.par...etitions/625633
Moved Into The Garage
Posted 12 December 2024 - 09:50 AM
I don't know if a signature from my end of the world would help!
That is not a good outcome for an e-mini.
Do you have a build thread somewhere? I am interested to see it.
Good luck!
As some of you know, I restored a 1960 Mini ditching the 850cc engine for an electric motor.[/size]
Unfortunately, DVLA said that because I drilled holes in the boot, it is now a modified kit-car.[/size]
They couldn't fault the conversion, but due to the holes my car needs an IVA test which it could never pass.[/size]
They refused to allow the holes to be welded up so this is terminal, the car is scrap.[/size]
With their success applying old rules in this new way to conversions, I cannot see what is stopping them being applied to anything frowned upon by the DVLA. [/size]
So please, I ask you to sign this petition which I hope will end this threat[/size]
I also humbly ask you to spread the word by forwarding it to anyone you know who may care.[/size]
Many thanks[/size]
Ed[/size]
https://petition.par...etitions/625633
The build thread for the 1960 Mk1 EV Mini is on the Mk1 Forum in the link below.
(You may need to register first as a member with the Mk1 forum for access to the "Our Cars and Projects Area" of the forum).
Mk1 Forum:-
EcoClassic Electric Mk1 Austin Mini build thread:-
https://mk1-forum.ne...pic.php?t=31180
Edited by mab01uk, 12 December 2024 - 09:53 AM.
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