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[Cyclops63]

"THEY" will be doing "this" "THEY" will be doing "that" Personally, and from years of experience, our police can't track down serious criminals never mind race around seeing who's got holes in their boot. I simply can't sign something that will increase the number of electrified classics and will take my chances with plod and the ubiquitous "They"

"Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't after you" - Joseph Heller: Catch22

[Bobbins]

"THEY" will be doing "this" "THEY" will be doing "that" Personally, and from years of experience, our police can't track down serious criminals never mind race around seeing who's got holes in their boot. I simply can't sign something that will increase the number of electrified classics and will take my chances with plod and the ubiquitous "They"
"Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't after you" - Joseph Heller: Catch22

Due to the prevalence of ANPR you have less chance of being stopped for drunk driving than you do for a vehicle registration infringement, welcome to 1984.

[Maccmike8]

The Police couldnt catch a cold. It'll be mot time that'll catch people out.

[sonscar]

At present MOT testers have no remit to report modifications,indeed with thousands of car types how will they know?Some may never see some models.Do not overthink things.Contact with DVLA for any reason is the most likely to catch out modifications.This is just my thoughts and are not gospel.Steve..

[Cyclops63]

Indeed,Steve. What about the millions of illegal numberplates on our roads? L plates left permanently on cars? Driving in the middle lane?  Amn't aware of a single prosecution, never mind conviction, for any of these offences.

[Black.Ghost]

This interpretation is absolutely bonkers. Just wait until the first wealthy person with a seriously expensive car with a hole drilled has to go through this process. No chance some rich person with a Ferrari 250 let's this happen.

[Shooter63]

The Police couldnt catch a cold. It'll be mot time that'll catch people out.

I couldn't agree more, my 84 year old mother got burgled 2 weeks ago, we had cctv footage of the car and the ars##oles who broke in and still the plod say no hope, but drive 2mph over the limit on an A road and they are all over you like a rash.

Shooter

[StefanMini]

Signed..

[Ol timer]

Signed

[mpi_bez]

Sorry to hear this is happening to you also, it is becoming quite common now.

 

I've signed and hope it will have some effect, will also post on the open inverter forum where you can find similar stories in this thread :

 

https://openinverter...opic.php?t=2379

[mab01uk]

DVLA’s Dos and Dont’s: The risks of modifying your classic car.

"The DVLA had no issue with removing the original A-Series engine and replacing it with a powertrain developed by Eco Classics – it failed the car for a single small hole that had been drilled to route some high voltage cables.

“It seems there has been material removed from the monocoque/body shell by means of drilling… it is not possible to confirm that the structure of this vehicle is as per the manufacturer first intended,” wrote the DVLA.

Nick Mason of Eco Classics explains that the hole in question goes through the original 12-volt battery box in the Mini’s boot floor: “We came through the side of that with two cables, just to get in the easy way. This is not structural, but we lost out anyway.”

The DVLA confirmed that reverting the chassis back to its original state would still be considered a modification from the original manufacturer’s specification, requiring the car to be re-registered. That would mean submitting the car for an IVA test, like a kit car would have to undergo, and have it registered on a Q-plate."

More here:-

https://www.hagerty....ur-classic-car/

 

Sadly the Original Post's Mini EV conversion is probably now to be stripped and sold off as parts due to a hole drilled in the battery box for two cables used in the EV conversion. Apparently the DVLA will not even accept the 'new' hole being welded up (or I presume the battery box being replaced by a new replacement panel...)

Edited by mab01uk, 08 January 2023 - 01:08 PM.

[Lplus]

If the hole can't be welded up and meet the requirements, what happens if rust causes a hole and it has to be welded up?  The principle is exactly the same, metal removed metal replaced....

[sonscar]

Indeed,what about the rustproofing grommets fitted into holes drilled to inject sections?Biva and Q plate.Scapegoat perhaps?,Steve..

[mab01uk]

Same DVLA rule would probably now apply....but most classic car restorers don't inform the DVLA they have drilled a hole or repaired rust....it makes no sense, like many things these days but be careful of informing the DVLA of anything which might end up with them wanting to inspect your car.

Edited by mab01uk, 08 January 2023 - 01:16 PM.

[Lplus]

Same DVLA rule would probably now apply....but most classic car restorers don't inform the DVLA they have drilled a hole or repaired rust....it makes no sense, like many things these days but be careful of informing the DVLA of anything which might end up with them wanting to inspect your car.

It could be taken further to include any hole drilled in a monocoque for the likes of light bars, radio arials spotlights etc and it isn't just classic car restorers who have to weld rust holes in cars - most jobbing garages have to do so.  There's even car repairers who have to remove and weld in new sections of monocoque for cat S repairs, what about them?  Should all cat N and S repaired cars have to be reregistered as a Q plate?  The whole thing is nonsense.