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Recent Change The Dvla Has Made To Its Interpretation Of Government Policy


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#31 Ethel

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Posted 29 August 2022 - 10:12 PM

I don't think Minis are that bad to IVA. There's an overlap between factory production & the IVA's predecessor: SVA. The test is about compliance with the same basic C&U regs.  Hence rolled exhaust & bumper ends etc.

 

 

One observation. If the refusal to issue an updated V5 precedes the VOSA inspection then it can't have been because of anything that was only discovered through that inspection, such as holes in the boot.



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Posted 30 August 2022 - 06:23 AM

Research Bugatti and DVSA,it may interest some,Steve..

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Posted 30 August 2022 - 06:38 AM

Hi Stuart
I have put a car through an SVA, the predecessor to the IVA and a car really has to be designed to pass. My mental picture of a mini changed enough to pass is horrific, it really is not feasible.
And afterwards they would still want to take my old plates and give me a dreaded Q

Idea on 10,000 signatures a good un cheers

Thanks for all the interest folks

Ps the v5 was sent off, then an inspection, then they kept it.
Eg IVA problems include external welded seams, external hinges, window clips etc etc etc, and any issue like these can no longer just be covered in rubber it has to sorted in the same way as a mainstream car manufacturer.

Pps the production minis never had to pass IVA .


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Posted 30 August 2022 - 08:09 AM

The world has gone crazy when a car cannot have external welded seams BUT one can be glued together!

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Posted 30 August 2022 - 08:36 AM

depends on the glue, some are stronger than the parent metals



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Posted 30 August 2022 - 11:03 AM

The priority is pedestrian safety,then passenger safety then driver safety with some other steering and braking considerations thrown in.I have not done SVA but researched it and gave up as it was too restrictive.Look at a Caterham full of plastic covers over the bolts for example.Sympathies,Steve..



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Posted 30 August 2022 - 11:53 AM

Our road going racer hasnt got a chance looking at this seeing as its mainly miglia with a bit of rallycrosser and rally car thrown in.

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Posted 30 August 2022 - 12:37 PM

wonder if it would be worthwhile speaking to garages that do this conversions for a living, but also wonder if they would be willing to give up info? seems ridiculous as so many have already been done!



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Posted 30 August 2022 - 12:47 PM

Does a valid mot after the mods are done count as a valid argument against this cobblers.

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Posted 30 August 2022 - 01:04 PM

I would have thought this nonsense would also apply to BMW with their Mini Recharged scheme.

 

I think that they will have sufficient clout to do something about it unless they, as a company, have an exemption.



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Posted 31 August 2022 - 06:08 AM

Are they aware that SPI/MPI Minis have a big hole in the boot floor for fuel lines (grommet WYA10001)?

What's the difference between this and similar hole for the conversion? Can you not prove its the 'same' as per manufacturers specs on later cars?

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Posted 31 August 2022 - 06:37 AM

Are they aware that SPI/MPI Minis have a big hole in the boot floor for fuel lines (grommet WYA10001)?

What's the difference between this and similar hole for the conversion? Can you not prove its the 'same' as per manufacturers specs on later cars?

The difference is that it was done by the manufacturer at the build stage, it's not a modification. 



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Posted 31 August 2022 - 06:40 AM

---COUGH--- SUNROOF.;-)

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Posted 31 August 2022 - 07:55 AM


Are they aware that SPI/MPI Minis have a big hole in the boot floor for fuel lines (grommet WYA10001)?

What's the difference between this and similar hole for the conversion? Can you not prove its the 'same' as per manufacturers specs on later cars?

The difference is that it was done by the manufacturer at the build stage, it's not a modification.


Why not "install" ;) a complete later boot floor?

What if you were to install a SPI/MPI engine to an earlier car? Does that also need an SVA/IVA?

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Posted 31 August 2022 - 08:15 AM

Pps the production minis never had to pass IVA .

 

The IVA is based on the regulations mass production cars have to meet. It doesn't include the destructive testing but production Minis have had to meet the same regulations. The rolled ends on bumpers is an example, the external seams just need to be "blunted" with a 2.5mm radius on the protruding edge - it's almost as if the rule was written for Mini seam covers.

 

Admittedly, that leccy Mk1 would have to lose its drip rails.






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