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[JonnyAlpha]

Hi,

 

I am re-using a set of Timken Front Wheel Bearings. I bought new inner and outer seals from MS, but they did not supply the inners with the white plastic weather shield? Any ideas where I can get them?

 

Also Timken recommend thier own red grease, but it is no longer available in this country (was it ever?), so what do I use?

 

Found this old thread which suggests LM - what is LM Grease? Is it Lithium General Purpose such as the Castrol LM, up to 130 degrees?

 

Many thanks 

[Chris1275gt]

Will this do. Is the seal incorporated in it?  IMG_0792.PNG   262.2K   2 downloads

Edited by Chris1275gt, 19 August 2021 - 09:44 AM.

[KTS]

 

Also Timken recommend thier own red grease, but it is no longer available in this country (was it ever?), so what do I use?

 

 

shows as in stock here : https://mustangmania...eel_Grease/8379

[JonnyAlpha]

Just checked the inner seals I bought and low and behold they came with the damm seals. Sorry for being an idiot

 

Edited by JonnyAlpha, 19 August 2021 - 07:34 PM.

[JonnyAlpha]

 

 

Also Timken recommend thier own red grease, but it is no longer available in this country (was it ever?), so what do I use?

 

 

shows as in stock here : https://mustangmania...eel_Grease/8379

 

Well found!!

 

Although it's double the price of Lithium EP2 Grease which, whilst looking, I have been advised to use.

Works out at around £20 inc postage!! 

Edited by JonnyAlpha, 19 August 2021 - 07:19 PM.

[sonikk4]

To be honest Lithium grease will be fine.

 

https://uk.rs-online...-Greases_Whoop (2)-_-692671&matchtype=&aud-827186183686:pla-307434657054&gclid=CjwKCAjwgviIBhBkEiwA10D2jw6_0-WQNKa-hT9twlLMir_0V0O65o7MgSkqUI-lbqrG7IZdD8smzxoCeHEQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

And if you want a really good guide for Grease's you cannot go wrong with this.

https://www.shell.co...edition2021.pdf

[sonikk4]

https://www.silmid.c...-various-sizes/

 

This is Red Grease which we use on virtually all of our wheel bearings in Aviation.

[Spider]

To be honest Lithium grease will be fine.

 

https://uk.rs-online...-Greases_Whoop (2)-_-692671&matchtype=&aud-827186183686:pla-307434657054&gclid=CjwKCAjwgviIBhBkEiwA10D2jw6_0-WQNKa-hT9twlLMir_0V0O65o7MgSkqUI-lbqrG7IZdD8smzxoCeHEQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

It irks me to say this as I had been using Castrol Greases since the 70's, I always found it a top shelf product, however since BP bought them out about 10 years ago, I have felt the quality has dropped right off. The last couple of tubs of this very grease I bought had water in it (not visible but failed on a basic water test). I didn't pick up on it until a few sets of wheel bearings had failed. Initially, I thought the water had been getting in to the assembled bearings but after a few I back tracked it to the grease. It's likely fine today, but that this could get through their QC (and not just one tub) was enough for me to be turned right off it.

 

< Edit: Neil, that Shell publication is gold ! Cheers >

Edited by Spider, 19 August 2021 - 09:34 PM.

[JonnyAlpha]

To be honest Lithium grease will be fine.

https://uk.rs-online...-Greases_Whoop (2)-_-692671&matchtype=&aud-827186183686:pla-307434657054&gclid=CjwKCAjwgviIBhBkEiwA10D2jw6_0-WQNKa-hT9twlLMir_0V0O65o7MgSkqUI-lbqrG7IZdD8smzxoCeHEQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

And if you want a really good guide for Grease's you cannot go wrong with this.
https://www.shell.co...edition2021.pdf

So if I order the Castrol Lithium Grease for my Timken Wheel Bearings (slightly cheaper on Amazon) as it’s such a large tube, can I use the same for all the other grease points (upper arms, brake Calipers, radius arms etc.
I also need to buy a replacement grease gun, my sealey one fell apart 🤣🤣

Edited by JonnyAlpha, 20 August 2021 - 10:19 AM.

[GraemeC]

Yes.

But where are you planning to grease the brake calipers?!

 

There are only 8 grease points on a Mini (well 9 if you have an early gearbox)

Radius arms

Front top arms

Upper & lower ball joints.

[JonnyAlpha]

Yes.

But where are you planning to grease the brake calipers?!

 

There are only 8 grease points on a Mini (well 9 if you have an early gearbox)

Radius arms

Front top arms

Upper & lower ball joints.

 

Sorry - just fired this off without checking, of course not the brake calipers

 

So would this grease be OK for these grease points or should I get some standard lithium grease as well?

[sonikk4]

Yes.
But where are you planning to grease the brake calipers?!
 
There are only 8 grease points on a Mini (well 9 if you have an early gearbox)
Radius arms
Front top arms
Upper & lower ball joints.

 
Sorry - just fired this off without checking, of course not the brake calipers
 
So would this grease be OK for these grease points or should I get some standard lithium grease as well?

It’s a multi purpose grease so yes you can use it elsewhere. However like like any good practise you always flush it through especially if what you are greasing has not been serviced for a while. Flushing through is just pumping grease in until you see it coming out the same colour as you are pumping in.

Also the Aeroshell PDF I posted will give you compatible greases. So for example Grease 7, Grease 28, grease 33 are all compatible but you still flush them through. In Aviation, certain companies prefer one type of grease over another like the three I have just mentioned. This could be down to cost, availability etc. The Aircraft Maintenance Manual will stipulate types of grease to be used in various components etc, the company in question ( might be orange in colour) wants out of the three in the AMM Grease 33 ( green, stinks to hell) but the Aircraft has been serviced elsewhere ( down route for example) and all they had was Grease 7. This is acceptable by the AMM but when the next scheduled serving is due at home base they will use 33 but pump it through until green grease appears.

BUT this is only for compatible greases. If you use something that is completely wrong so for example a low temp grease in a high temp area, flushing through may not be good enough. In this case a strip down may be needed, all of the incorrect grease/lubricant removed, the item in question inspected / disassembled, ( wheel bearing, plain bearing etc) and then reassembled and greased as per AMM.

Sorry a bit long winded but it gives you an appreciation as to why you can use certain types of grease for the component in question but may need to flush things through.

[croc7]

I have Timken bearings, thus I use Timken bearing grease.  Peace of mind.

[Cooper Mac]

As croc7 says ^^^^

I got mine from Mustang Mania.

[eric67]

Me too.

 

It looks like Mustang Mania are getting good business from TMF !