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[gazza82]

Just wondering if anyone can confirm the cable colours for the two-speed motor especially the low and high speed connections.

Is low/high ULG/RLG or vice versa .. ??

The wiring diagram I'm looking at (which is actually a Metro one) seems to suggest low speed is ULG as that is the 2nd connection on the switch .. NLG/ULG/RLG




(Yes, I know I could wire it up then swap the wires on the back of the switch, etc .. but I'd rather do it right first time!).

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[humph]

These might help.

 

https://www.theminif...agrams-redrawn/

[Ethel]

Blue is 2 (fast).

 

Though it really depends on the fly leads going in to the actual motor they are:

 

 Red single speed

Yellow 2nd speed

Blue earth

[gazza82]

humph: I've looked at all the wirung diagrams .. and more .. but none specify which wire does what. And the switches I have (aftermarket Durite brand) are a real pain if you put the terminal in the wrong slot!! Guess how I know!

Ethel: I've got a 'virgin' plug so it will get new colour-matched cables .. :)

That's another one solved .. Thanks both!

[Ethel]

There's quite a few decent  piccies & diagrams to be found online.

 

The running positions are straight forward, just send 12v to red or yellow fly leads.

 

The off (really park) takes 12v supplied to the motor multiplug that then goes via the park switch to your dash switch and on to the low speed (red) fly.

 

It's important that running positions also isolate the supply from the park switch because it's grounded by the park switch opening. Having the motor windings grounded on both sides ensures it stops dead instead of running on enough to reclose the park switch to keep on truckin'.

[gazza82]

The Durite wiper switch I have has three positions:OFF/ON/ON. It is a specific wiper switch to they have replicated the three circuits.

off .. which is actually a circuit as you mention so now I realise this is park ..
on (slow)
on (fast)

[Ethel]

Shouldn't be hard to figure..

 

park switch + slow + 12v + fast 

 

3 positions (+) with what they connect on their L & R.

[Spider]

The Durite wiper switch I have has three positions:OFF/ON/ON. It is a specific wiper switch to they have replicated the three circuits.

off .. which is actually a circuit as you mention so now I realise this is park ..
on (slow)
on (fast)

 

It's not easy or straight forward to wire such a switch for the Wipers and retain self parking. That sounds like a Headlight Switch.

You can use this switch you have but you'll need to include a relay and a couple of Diodes.

[gazza82]

The Durite wiper switch I have has three positions:OFF/ON/ON. It is a specific wiper switch to they have replicated the three circuits.

off .. which is actually a circuit as you mention so now I realise this is park ..
on (slow)
on (fast)

 
It's not easy or straight forward to wire such a switch for the Wipers and retain self parking. That sounds like a Headlight Switch.

You can use this switch you have but you'll need to include a relay and a couple of Diodes.

It's sold as a specific wiper switch.

The good thing is I can wire it in different ways so one idea is to ignore the "off" circuit, use the "normal" Mini/Metro way to wire up the park circuits and just use low and high speed settings on the switch .. and it will have a relay (as will several other circuits to keep the loads off the switches - new and existing!).

I'm also splitting circuits so I don't lose the lights on both sides if a fuse goes .. the mice who had taken up residence for a while decided the old Austin wiring was especially chewable .. so it's all coming out to be replaced with modern thin wall cables.

[Ethel]

The park circuit needs to link to the on switch so it can be isolated when the wipers run. When it parks it also earths the motor, that'd make a short.

 

At its simplest it's a crossover switch:

 

Earth \

           Park Switch ---------to stalk

+12v /

 

 

from park switch \

                            stalk ---------to motor

                +12v  /

 

What you need to avoid:

 

Earth \

          park ------------ \

                                  I- motor 

toggle switch +12v --/

[Spider]

 

 

The Durite wiper switch I have has three positions:OFF/ON/ON. It is a specific wiper switch to they have replicated the three circuits.

off .. which is actually a circuit as you mention so now I realise this is park ..
on (slow)
on (fast)

 
It's not easy or straight forward to wire such a switch for the Wipers and retain self parking. That sounds like a Headlight Switch.

You can use this switch you have but you'll need to include a relay and a couple of Diodes.

It's sold as a specific wiper switch.

The good thing is I can wire it in different ways so one idea is to ignore the "off" circuit, use the "normal" Mini/Metro way to wire up the park circuits and just use low and high speed settings on the switch .. and it will have a relay (as will several other circuits to keep the loads off the switches - new and existing!).

I'm also splitting circuits so I don't lose the lights on both sides if a fuse goes .. the mice who had taken up residence for a while decided the old Austin wiring was especially chewable .. so it's all coming out to be replaced with modern thin wall cables.

 

 

 

The Durite wiper switch I have has three positions:OFF/ON/ON. It is a specific wiper switch to they have replicated the three circuits.

off .. which is actually a circuit as you mention so now I realise this is park ..
on (slow)
on (fast)

 

Ah, in that case the Switch is actually ' ON - ON - ON '

 

Light Green / Orange to B terminal
Black / Light Green to P terminal
Red / Light Green to L terminal
Blue / Light Green to H terminal.

You also need a Light Green / Orange feed direct to the Motor, it will work without this but not self park.

[gazza82]

My switch terminals are marked:

1
2A
2B
3

1 & 2A is 'Off' so park
2A & 2B is Low speed
2B & 3 is High speed

Not yet sure how that lines up with the standard switch 'numbers'

Might need to make up some sort of 12v wiring system to try ..

[Spider]

My switch terminals are marked:

1
2A
2B
3

1 & 2A is 'Off' so park
2A & 2B is Low speed
2B & 3 is High speed

Not yet sure how that lines up with the standard switch 'numbers'

Might need to make up some sort of 12v wiring system to try ..

 

Hmmm,,,,, the only Durite Wiper Switch I could find is the Rotary one;-

 

 

but sounds like you have something I can't find.

 

Could you post a link to the switch you have ?

[Spider]

Just re-reading your last Post and if I understand that correctly, the wiring maybe;-

 

Terminal 1      Black / Lt Green

Terminal 2A    Red / Lt Green

Terminal 2B    Lt Green / Orange - note this also runs to the Motor as well

Terminal 3      Blue / Lt Green

 

All the same, could you kindly link the Switch you have.

[gazza82]

This doesn't provide a lot of info .. I'll try and photograph or scan in the instruction leaflet over the weekend ..

https://www.durite.c...A-at-28V/078810


I haven't decided whether to use the internal light .. I might wire it into the panel lights as I think I'll know when it's on -- there will be these two things passing my eyes on the screen back and forth as I drive in the rain (or I hope there will be!)