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#1 Cluaran

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Posted 27 April 2025 - 07:14 AM

Good morning,

I hope all are good and your minis are firing on cylinders.

I always search the forum before I post a question. I got hits for the question I am going to ask, but unfortunately I have had no joy, resolving my issue.

The paint code on my VIN is the duo paint code RWU this splits out to Flame red and diamond white.

On the Somerford mini shop website it says the following::

Note: some Minis carried a paint code of RWU or RDV. RWU was a ‘Duo Colour’ code indicating a finish of Flame Red with a White Diamond.

The code for flame red from this duo code is COF.

I bought rattle cans 1k & 2k COF from multiple suppliers, also bought tins of COF, HVLP guns and 100l SGS compressor.

The colour is not even close to the colour. I bought rattle cans of all the Rover Flame red. I done spray outs on primed 6 inch steel squares. None of them are even close to the existing colour.

Stupidly I rubbed down and primed the bonnet and roof. Prior to confirming the colour was correct. I am trying to delete the white roof so the mini is all flame red.

I'm worried now that I have a grey primer roof and a bonnet a different colour.

I took the boot lid to a local paint supplier. He had wee booklets with loads of different red paint swatches. He was unable to match the paint. I asked him about Spectrometery. He says this doesn't give a good match. Which I don't understand? Is this true? I thought with mode4n technology, this would be my next best option.

Could anyone advise if imports paints are different due to country laws and regulations?

Has anyone got the same model and year import with the duo paint code RWU, that has successfully match the paint.

Is there anyone in the Glasgow area that could recommend anywhere that they would recommend that can match paint? That does spectrometery?

Any help would be gratefully appreciated, as this has been getting me down. The amount of money I have spent, I'd probably have been cheaper paying someone that knows what they are doing!

I was also trying to clarify if a Cooper white roof should only be white on the actual roof or if the raised gutter should also be white?

Under the bonnet where paint has worn away, I can see gold/bronze primer. Does the colour of the primer have a significant difference to the finished colour?

Did Rover use a gold/bronze primer?

If anyone would be good enough to help me, I would be very grateful.

How much money (ball park) would it cost to get a mini resprayed in 2025, has anyone had a paint job recently. Can you get a respray with out a full strip down?

Thanks very much in advance for any help.

Hope all enjoy the rest of there weekend!

Kindest Regards

Cluaran

#2 Midas Mk1

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Posted 27 April 2025 - 07:33 AM

Being the youngest Mini is 25, there’s a high chance that the basecoat isn’t that of the factory.

You really need to get an existing panel scanned, this process takes an image of three points for data, then searches the database and gives you 3 matches in the closest order first.

Primer affects the base colour too, although once you’ve matched the existing base coat this colour code will tell you what colour primer to use.

Any good bodyshop or paint supplier has the scanner, I was lucky to use one a good few times over the years in my last job.

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Posted 27 April 2025 - 07:35 AM

This is a picture of the bonnet and wing. Top is the factory paint, bottom is 2k COF from rattle can, the type with the pin on bottom to activate.

https://freeimage.host/i/3WH3T2s

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Posted 27 April 2025 - 10:13 AM

As said take it to a paint shop for scanning.



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Posted 27 April 2025 - 10:23 AM

When you rubbed it down to bare metal did you see rings of previous repaints?On my racing green when I rubbed the roof down there was the green under the white.The gold primer sounds like isolater primer which used to be the choice when painting over unknown quality substrate.I am sure that you know red is very prone to colour change with age.Steve..

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Posted 27 April 2025 - 04:35 PM

I have a 1990 Flame Red limited edition which is original and the white roof paint includes the inside of the gutter all the way around. The underside of the gutter is Flame Red and then it has the black plastic trim fitted over it. I would think that would be unchanged on a 1994 mini.

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Posted 27 April 2025 - 08:22 PM

Even if it is the original paint, 30 years of UV on red (the worst colour) you will get fade, it’ll be different front to back on the car too, from experience.

You will need to get it scanned to match where it’s at now. That’s the only way other than repainting the full car in the shade you desire.

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Posted Yesterday, 05:59 AM

Thanks very much to all that kindly took the time to reply. It is very much appreciated. I took the boot lid to a local auto paint shop.

The guy took it out in to the street with a deck of red paint swatches in a wee book. He was unable to match it. He said bring it back on a sunny day.

I asked him about Spectrometery, he advised of a place in Paisley that do it but said its not accurate. I don't understand this, with today's technology, I thought this would be more accurate than some guy eye balling. He seemed to think it was factory paint.

Anyone got an experience of spectrometer?

Did Rover use a gold/bronze primer I'm 90s exports? Does the colour of the primer make a significant difference to the final colour?

Thanks again to all that have responded. Very much appreciated.

Does anyone know if the Mini Clan on West Coast still exists? I looking for a club on West coast?

Have a good Monday.

Cheers

Cluaran




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