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[domdee]

Hi all. After a bit of clarification if possible.

For the new banded speeding fines, it’s a weeks wage for band b offence. Does this work on the offenders salary or household income?

And what if you’re a self employed business owner? Does it work off tax returns?

Thanks in advance.

[MrBounce]

This to me is all about the court fines, not a fixed penalty. If you have been caught speeding, as far as I am aware, you should be offered a fixed penalty for speeds of <26mph over the limit in 40 and above areas and <20mph over the limit in a 30 area. It's only if you don't accept the fixed penalty that the court fine would come into play. Speed awareness courses are a way of avoiding points on your licence.

 

If you are considering challenging a camera case in court, my advice would be simply "don't". You would be challenging the Home Office, not the Police, as they're the ones who calibrate the machines. They have a hell of a lot more knowledge than the average Joe and will likely rip any challenge to bits with detailed, irrefutable science. Take the fixed penalty. 

 

I used to work for the local central ticket office in the Speed Cameras department, and I have seen many a case where Joe Public challenged, lost and was hit with a big fine due to court costs for experts. It ain't cheap. 

 

This will help: https://www.rac.co.u...offered to you.

 

If you are going to the court, I would ask the court themselves about the salary thing as someone will be able to advise.

Edited by MrBounce, 12 August 2020 - 04:12 PM.

[domdee]

Thanks for your reply. The person was speeding 48 in a 30. From an online search it shows band b offence and that’s the weeks wage business. No court summons. Just the nip. That has to be responded to to determine driver as you’ll know before any fines/points are given

[domdee]

To add, there is even mention of ban.

[Cooperman]

48 in a 30 should be 3 points and £100 by way of fixed penalty.

The 'Band B' situation only comes into play if you go to court and plead guilty (or not guilty but found guilty).

At 50 in a 30 it is normal to get a summons so that a higher fine and possible disqualification can be awarded.

[domdee]

Right fixed penalty sounds much more favourable! Thanks

[MrBounce]

Right fixed penalty sounds much more favourable! Thanks

 

If every person went to court for a speeding fine, they couldn't cope. Hundreds of NIPs processed every day in every County. Speed Awareness Courses help with the slower speeds, higher speeds non-negotiable 3 points & £100 fine and +20 and up (in a 30) & +26 and up everywhere else are the ones which give automatic summons.

 

48 in a 30 is high. Someone wasn't paying attention...

Edited by MrBounce, 12 August 2020 - 08:30 PM.

[domdee]

Yes I see where you're coming from.

 

Its the dreaded google for you that gets you believing all sorts.

 

Google nose bleeds and it probably tells you you have a brain tumour (exaggerating obviously)

 

Yes it was very careless on the drivers behalf.

 

Thanks for your help lads!

[Ethel]

Easily done, plenty of 30's in rural areas start before the houses, so if you don't spot the sign because something more important, like a junction, takes your attention...

 

I'm sure £100 is little deterrent to some. They'll look on it as an occupational hazard until the points tally gets high enough to threaten their licence. We could easily have an incremental scale, the more points already on your licence the bigger the fine. The points could also come off incrementally, say one a year.

[domdee]

As a follow up... The driver has never been so relieved to receive 3 points and £100 fine.