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[Big_Adam]

lo,

got two holes in the passenger side of the floor. there were two little plugs there but they dissapers.

would it be a good idea to pop rivint in a plate of 3mm alu to fix it. its that dipped down bit for your heels if the car is left hand drive.

got a big plate of alu in the garage and was planning to cut that so it filled the whole dip down part of the floor.

good idea or bad idea?

cheers.

[minimadjonesy]

could do that on both sides and make it a feature - however I would also cover the area with scilicon or something similar to ensure that no moisture is trapped between it and the floor otherwise it may rot the floor pan quicker!

[Big_Adam]

aye. was going to load a big blob of waxol in the dip. the rivit it in. the waxol underneith.

[1984mini25]

Or you could just go down to Halfords as buy a few rubber grommets and stick those in the holes, also do much better job of sealing the holes than those metal things do.

[minislapper]

If you pop rivet you are exposing more metal to rot. Plus the gap inbetween will fill with condensation and you will end up with no floor in a short time. Just find something to fill the holes.

[Big_Adam]

hmmm........small problem tho.

i don't have money. i do have alu and pop rivits.

...bugger. can't invite more rust into El Gordo.

[The Matt]

What size are the holes? Might be able to find some grommets somewhere.

[midridge2]

technically it could fail its mot, if the tester spotted pop rivets and a hole he can fail it as its not welded even though its a original drain hole without a bung in.
if you have a rust hole in the floor you could file it bigger and round and fit a bung and it would be ok for a mot but a original hole with out a bung and a plate pop rivitted on top would fail.

[The Matt]

technically it could fail its mot, if the tester spotted pop rivets and a hole he can fail it as its not welded even though its a original drain hole without a bung in.
if you have a rust hole in the floor you could file it bigger and round and fit a bung and it would be ok for a mot but a original hole with out a bung and a plate pop rivitted on top would fail.

On what grounds would an MOT tester fail that?

[Big_Adam]

well i though pop rivits would be ok. my mate fred's dad had a car were the entire boot was made from pop rivited biscut tins.

[midridge2]

if you took your mini for a mot and it had a hole in the floor it would fail its mot,
if you welded a plate over the top of the hole the tester would look inside the car and look to see if it was welded up correctly, now you have a hole in the floor and you pop rivet a plate on top it would fail its mot,
a tester does not know every hole in every car that had a bung put in from the factory so he spots a mini with a hole in the floor with a plate rivetted on top so he fails it.
as i said because a tester does not know were every factory made hole is you could in effect have a small rust hole and file it out and put a bung in and the tester would pass the car.
this is assuming you did not put a new bung in before you pop rivitted a plate on.

[The Matt]

if you took your mini for a mot and it had a hole in the floor it would fail its mot,
if you welded a plate over the top of the hole the tester would look inside the car and look to see if it was welded up correctly, now you have a hole in the floor and you pop rivet a plate on top it would fail its mot,
a tester does not know every hole in every car that had a bung put in from the factory so he spots a mini with a hole in the floor with a plate rivetted on top so he fails it..................

Not every single bit of corrosion on a car is deemed as an MOT fail.

I still don't see why an MOT tester would fail a hole that was covered in a riveted plate, unless it was within a prescribed area (within 30cm of a structural mounting point). Many areas on many cars have holes with bolted or riveted plates covering them, they wouldn't fail.

[midridge2]

because a mini is a monooquoc (sp) body ie no chassis, how many minis do you know that have failed its mot on holes on the floorpan that is out of 30cm from a structual mounting point. loads.

[Jordie]

Just spoke to my dads friend about this (MOT tester)

He said if the area was rusty and corroded, and there was a plate riveted on he would fail it, as they are trying to repair the hole without welding.

BUT!!! if the hole is fine and its just a hole for water drain, he would pass it if riveted over.

[The Matt]

As I would have done when I was testing.