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[Chris1275gt]

I bought a new 1980 1275gt and had the ziebart rust protection done, it was about £90 I think. I sold the car in 1992, it had spent all it's life out in the elements and after 12 years had no rust anywhere on it.
Anyone know if you can still get it done in the U.K.

[mab01uk]

I also remember Ziebart aftermarket protected from new classic Minis in the 1970/80's which had no serious rust 10+ years later so it did work well. When car manufacturers started to take rust prevention seriously at the factory with rust warranties, wax injection, etc the Ziebart aftermarket business declined, although today similar Waxoyl type treatments can be done DIY or by some classic car specialists.

 

In the 1970's I remember one of several aftermarket processes of wax injection for new cars was marketed by 'Ziebart'  which mean't that some Mini's which were treated actually went to the scrapyard due to mechanical problems rather than terminal rust!

Ziebart seem to be still going in the USA:-

"Automobile manufactures are making better vehicles and are providing longer warranties…including rust-through warranties. There’s really no need to purchase a rustproofing package unless you plan on keeping your vehicle for 10+ years. Franchises like Ziebart were left in the dust. Or, were they?"

http://www.ziebart.c...rust-protection

Edited by mab01uk, 31 October 2019 - 12:45 PM.

[slidehammer]

I would try someone like Rust Buster, they have a good name for their rust prevention treatment.

https://www.rust.co....fing-service-24

[RustyAutoCityE]

A while back I saw this video on YouTube: Skoda Favorit gets Krown Rust Protection

 

No idea how effective it is in the long run, but looked to be quite thorough.

 

 

[MikeRotherham]

I have used this company a couple of times:

 

https://www.jrclassics.co.uk/

[sonikk4]

I used to work for a company in 79 called Rust Protection who basically did the Ziebart process. It was amazing the various makes and models of cars that came through the doors there.

 

Two different wax processes used, a stack of drilling and grommets and gallons of Wax. My last thoughts of that place was using the concrete scrubber every Friday afternoon to lift the Wax overspray off.

 

Now did the cars last longer is difficult to say as most were local which meant they lived by the sea (Bexhill) so a lot did depend on how well the owners looked after the cars.

 

My clubby had been Ziebarted and i have to admit even though i was being really picky it had worked. But then again he is now 45 years old so understandable really.

[spraybeater]

As the owner of a rare 1970s Coachbuilt Clubman that was treated with Cadulac antirust process after

the extensive body work mods that were done! it certainly worked well. 

My car still has all the drilled and plugged holes that i still remove periodically and reinject with Cavity wax.

I remember the days when a local BL  dealer that I did a lot of body repair work for used to get all the new

cars done with Ziebart! as sonik says messy stuff, the big downside for me back then was doing any repair

work for them that included any welding, the hot wax dripping on bare flesh was OUCH.

[Chris1275gt]

I remember the ziebart rustproofing was more like bitumastic paint I don't remember it feeling like wax. I used to work in the gas industry and any steel pipes laid in concrete we used to coat them in bitumastic paint which remained flexible never really set hard and stuck like the proverbial to a blanket and the steel never rusted.
I still use it under the car to cover nuts and bolts.

[nicklouse]

may be a different product from the same company. I was definitely a wax in the car industry similar in colour to waxoyl. sure it was an optional extra on new BL cars.

[sonscar]

Were there two types of wax?One for box sections and a black sticky one which never quite set which was sprayed liberally everywhere under the bonnet.I seem to remember my dad buying used cars that were "rustproofed",they still fell apart some in as few as 5 years,Steve..

[sonikk4]

Were there two types of wax?One for box sections and a black sticky one which never quite set which was sprayed liberally everywhere under the bonnet.I seem to remember my dad buying used cars that were "rustproofed",they still fell apart some in as few as 5 years,Steve..

From what I can remember the internal wax product was light yellow. The underside was black. I’m sure thinking back on it there was something else used as well but for the life of me I cannot remember. I know any overspray we had to use a steam cleaner so I’m sure it was more likely something harder setting that a standard Waxoyl type product. If you left it over a weekend then you were basically screwed. Now that could have been more like the Ziebart product that hardened.

[cp2708]

I had a MkII escort in 1999, that had been Zibarted with cavity wax and bitumen under seal, it still had its original sills and wheel arches. Deffo a good investment. My dad bought a brand new Fiesta in 1981, that was rust protected by a company called ECP, that wasn’t quite as successful. 10 years old and garaged the whole time with rust bubbles appearing all over. 

 

Nobody under seals cars any more though do they?

[cal844]

I do, I use Gravitex stone chip, then 2 coats of 2k black(or body colour) then finally a spray on wax, similar to Waxoiling.

I dont waxoil the outer sills, these get an extra coat of the 2k paint.

Edited by cal844, 03 November 2019 - 08:34 PM.

[r3k1355]

 

Nobody under seals cars any more though do they?

 

It's still done on imports and stuff 

[mbolt998]

I bought a new 1980 1275gt and had the ziebart rust protection done, it was about £90 I think. I sold the car in 1992, it had spent all it's life out in the elements and after 12 years had no rust anywhere on it.
Anyone know if you can still get it done in the U.K.

I bought my 1979 car in London 1992. The guy who sold it to me (he was dealer-- it had had two private owners) said it had been "Ziebarted from new". You can see rubber plugs in various places where they pumped something in, and it's all undersealed. Anyway it has lasted very well, although obviously I have had to do a bit of welding here and there.

 

My car also has a vinyl roof-covering and a sunroof. Do you remember if Ziebart were offering those at the time? I don't think they were factory and it seems quite likely it was Ziebart who put them on. My theory is whoever bought it took it straight to them for a full pimping.