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#151 jamesquintin

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Posted 26 October 2019 - 08:52 AM

nice work! If the battery hasn't been fitted yet, could you take a picture of the inside of the box...? I took a strip of something out of mine that was covering the 3 holes and I can't remember whats supposed to be down there....

 

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#152 Bobbins

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Posted 26 October 2019 - 10:49 AM

nice work! If the battery hasn't been fitted yet, could you take a picture of the inside of the box...? I took a strip of something out of mine that was covering the 3 holes and I can't remember whats supposed to be down there....

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I took the same strip out of mine, a sort of bitumin strip that was fitted into the drainage channel, I queried it here: http://www.theminifo...-way-to-remove/ I think it helps to stop the battery moving although mine was so compressed with age the battery was sat on the steel either side anyway.
After refurbishing I've chosen to fit some sound deadening material either side of the drainage channel rather than in the bottom where was ... should allow the channel to, er, drain if needed, although rubber grommets could easily be fitted if preferred.

Edited by Bobbins, 26 October 2019 - 10:51 AM.


#153 Ben_O

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Posted 27 October 2019 - 08:39 AM

I would always plug those holes as you have more chance of wet getting in to the battery tray from beneath and rotting it out than the need to drain any water out.

Remember, all of the drain plugs in the Mini (and most other cars for that matter) are not fitted with removal in mind in case there is a need to let water out, they are there to seal up the holes made to let out the coating when the shells are dipped at the factory.

 

Originally in this car and my pink MPI, there was a bitumen strip that was the shape of the narrow pressing in the bottom of the battery box where the 3 drain holes are. It didn't just lay over the holes, it was molded into the holes too. I cant remember by what method though.

I don't actually have the one from this car anymore as despite being very careful, it just broke up into small pieces when removing as it was cracked and brittle.

 

In this car, I shall replace this with flat rubber bungs instead



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Posted 27 October 2019 - 06:04 PM

Cheers Ben. This morning I removed exactly the same strip from my son's Mini, I think this time it'll be thin sound deadening each side plus rubber bungs in the holes themselves.

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Posted 31 October 2019 - 02:37 PM

Right, back again after a few days away and waiting for me on the bench was a specialist components throttle body and ECU kit.

 

Having never fitted one before, I quickly realised that the Rover MEMS ECU and engine bay loom I had previously refitted were no longer required so I removed them once again and set aside.

 

The kit went on ok but there were a few issues mainly with the way the loom routes and the finish of 1 or two bits tat needed minor mods but never mind.

 

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I'm going to have a try at tidying up the wiring in the next photo as it doesnt want to sit any differently to how it is there but it looks a bit birds nesty

 

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And the fuse holder and comms cable dont have anywhere to live apart from just dangling

 

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In the picture, the fuse holder is cable tied to the maxi fuse holder bracket. I might change that though.

 

Ever closer to having a running Mini!!



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Posted 31 October 2019 - 04:29 PM

What was the reason to go to the SC fuel injection system instead of the original MPi system?

 

I'm about to order one of these systems for a customer's car, what sort of minor issues did you have so I'll know what to look out for? What sort of tuning has to be done once installed? Mine is going on a fresh build 1310 to replace dual HS4 carbs.

 

Does the SC ECU also run the ignition or just the FI?


Edited by Magneto, 31 October 2019 - 04:32 PM.


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Posted 31 October 2019 - 10:23 PM

What was the reason to go to the SC fuel injection system instead of the original MPi system?

I'm about to order one of these systems for a customer's car, what sort of minor issues did you have so I'll know what to look out for? What sort of tuning has to be done once installed? Mine is going on a fresh build 1310 to replace dual HS4 carbs.

Does the SC ECU also run the ignition or just the FI?


The wiring loom isn't great. I pulled mine apart and rerouted it and taped it better. I had to extend the wiring for the coil pack too. It does fuel and ignition. It will have to be tuned on a rolling road as a standard. Take it to someone that knows the system well. I'm on my second engine because a tuner didn't understand charge robbing.

#158 Ben_O

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Posted 31 October 2019 - 11:31 PM

What was the reason to go to the SC fuel injection system instead of the original MPi system?
 
I'm about to order one of these systems for a customer's car, what sort of minor issues did you have so I'll know what to look out for? What sort of tuning has to be done once installed? Mine is going on a fresh build 1310 to replace dual HS4 carbs.
 
Does the SC ECU also run the ignition or just the FI?

It was the customers preference to use it and after exchanging a few emails with sc, they said that they have installed them on jcw converted minis and get impressive results.
The minor issues were mainly with the layout of the loom. I personally think the routing could have been better if I'm honest. I don't like the angle that the throttle cable goes into the linkage and the bracket that the cable passes through above the linkage was too small for the threaded part of the cable casing to pass through so needed enlarging. The hole that is laser cut into the back plate for the air filter is too large for the elbow and grommet they supply to run the vacuum hose to it and the hose you reuse from the mpi setup isn't long enough to reach comfortably.
A few other bits too but can't remember at the moment.
As for tuning. It comes with a pre installed base map but the recommend a rr session to tune for each engine.
The eco in this kit runs the whole lot. It replaces the rover unit and the entire engine bay loom on an mpi. Not sure on a carb car but I would imagine so

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Posted 01 November 2019 - 12:43 PM

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#160 MikeRotherham

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Posted 02 November 2019 - 01:09 PM

Is that a 9 pin RS232 connector I spy in one of the images adjacent to the 3 way fuse box?

 

What's its purpose and what does it plug into?

 

Wish it was possible to keep everything in the engine compartment as clean and shiney as it is in these last few images.


Edited by MikeRotherham, 02 November 2019 - 01:11 PM.


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Posted 02 November 2019 - 01:41 PM

Is that a 9 pin RS232 connector I spy in one of the images adjacent to the 3 way fuse box?

What's its purpose and what does it plug into?

Wish it was possible to keep everything in the engine compartment as clean and shiney as it is in these last few images.


It is. It connects to a usb dongle which in turn connects to a pc so that the ecu can be programmed or adjustments to the map made.

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Posted 02 November 2019 - 01:47 PM

Thanks for that.

 

Sounds like the sort of thing I did when I used to work in an IT dept but in our case it was to keep old machinery working when laptop manufacturers insisted on upgrading their kit and removing rs232 interfaces and fitting them there new fangled usb things.



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Posted 07 November 2019 - 04:10 PM

I painted the doors

 

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I prefer to flat and polish doors off of the car so first one flatted

 

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And polished

 

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And fitted

 

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I fitted the mirror too 

 

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And the same for the other door

 

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I have also bled the brakes and had the battery on to check everything works which it does.

 

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Posted 07 November 2019 - 05:06 PM

Looking good Ben, have you had it running yet?



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Posted 07 November 2019 - 05:35 PM

Ooooohh....looking good Ben ?




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