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[KTS]

..it's certainly in the right place for it !!

 

cheers Ben

[Ben_O]

It's time to mock up some panels and see where we are with things

 

All I need at this stage is inner wing, outer wing, scuttle and A panel.

 

 

 

And of course the door. I refreshed the hinges with new studs, pins and bushes

 

 

The fit is reasonable

 

 

A nice even tight gap around the top of the window frame

 

 

And the bottom of the door has a nice even gap too

 

 

The problem is that the gap is 2mm too wide at the front and 2mm too narrow at the back

 

 

 

The window frame as I said is even and I certainly can't move the door forward to open up the gap at he back or this will cause issues with the top of the A post clashing with the window frame

 

 

But I do have some space to play with here above the top hinge

 

 

What I suspect is that the skin has been fitted too far back on the frame. Fitting a new skin a fraction forwards will even everything right out and most importantly not disturb the window frame which is pretty good.

 

Ill have to have a play and then see where to go.

 

Cheers

 

Ben

[Ben_O]

A bit more playing around and the fit is marginally better but still not as good as It can be

 

 

It's much nicer round the window frame and down the front but the back is still just kissing the side panel.

 

Suspicions of the door skin were confirmed by comparing the measurements with a known good door

 

PUP door

 

 

Known good door

 

 

So to prove the point I put the known good door onto the PUP

 

 

 

That's better. Just goes to show what a difference a few mm can make when re-skinning a door.

The best thing to do is check and recheck the fit of a skin on the car before final folding and welding and I suppose it's worth measuring any replacement skin to make sure it's the same size as the one you currently have fitted.

 

I've not used repo door skins before and wonder if they were used on this car before and that's why they are bigger??

 

Cheers

 

Ben

[KTS]

..that's a stroke of luck you've got a couple of good doors you can use 

 

any options other than reskinning the doors ?  

[Ben_O]

..that's a stroke of luck you've got a couple of good doors you can use 

 

any options other than reskinning the doors ?  

Well i don't like to borrow bits usually but it was the only way I had of proving the point to myself so that I didn't go crazy!

 

There are other things I can do besides a re-skin. I could perhaps take some meat of the edge of the door and carefully weld it back up but there are risks of warping with that.

The only other option is to wait until I fit the new side panels and rob a couple of mm by positioning the side panel a gnats whisker back.

This will do the trick and won't make a blind bit of difference anywhere else I wouldn't have thought but you will always have the issue of the door being to wide which won't be a problem unless you ever need to (touch wood) replace the door. 

 

How do you want me to proceed?

 

Cheers

 

Ben

[KTS]

..and there was me thinking you had a ready made solution to my problem.

 

i think this time, it's done properly   

 

it's my belief that the passenger door will also need doing as apart from anything else the current skin doesn't follow the bodywork at all around the door handle, but i'll leave that decision to you...

Edited by KTS, 21 November 2018 - 09:39 PM.

[minimissions]

Those gaps are looking good, so cant wait to see this one done

[Ben_O]

I'm happy with the height and position of the step so that can now be welded in

 

 

And then I removed all of the new panels again to fix the crossmember end

 

 

Old one off and a clean up

 

 

 

I could have cleaned up the removed piece and refitted it. It really wasn't bad at all but as it was off I made a shiny new one

 

 

And fitted that

 

 

 

Then back on with the panels

 

 

 

And then the bonnet and other wing were loosly fitted to determine that it was going to work with the new inner wing at this position

 

 

 

Everything is near enough to now enable me to settle on this as the final position of the inner wing so that can now be welded on

 

Cheers

 

Ben

[KTS]

..starting to look like a car again 

 

while you're there, could you take a look at the engine steady bracket on the cross member and let me know what you think 

 

cheers

[Ben_O]

..starting to look like a car again 

 

while you're there, could you take a look at the engine steady bracket on the cross member and let me know what you think 

 

cheers

Yep, no worries. I think ill bin it and stick a new one on. It's not the best and would need to come off to sort out some rust behind anyway.

[bartman]

amazing work. i would love a pickup

[Ben_O]

Happy new year to everyone.

 

Back on with the pick-up at last.

Continuing on from last time, I had got the inner wing clamped up in the right position and was happy with the fit of the external panels so I could get it welded on

 

 

Then I could make a start fitting the door jamb panel to finish up the A post.

Sadly, the replacement panel isn't much good. The distances between the folds are too short so it just doesn't follow the shape of the step properly

 

 

And I have quite a big gap to fill at the top

 

 

I started with the bottom and just modified the shape as I welded it to get this

 

 

And then after doing the same at the top and making a small fillet piece, I had this

 

 

I popped the A panel and door on to see that it followed the shape of the A post properly which It did nicely

 

 

Next up was the dodgy lower boxing panel

 

 

I made a new piece

 

 

Clamped in

 

 

And then partially welded

 

 

And then after finishing up the welding inside the car for the inner wing, boxing panel and a few screw holes, it got a coat of zinc

 

 

And the same happened on the outside

 

 

Before prepping the outer A panel and clamping it into position

 

 

 

And then welding followed by zinc

 

 

 

 

Next up, the other side needs the same treatment.

 

Cheers

 

Ben

[KTS]

Happy new year to you too Ben

 

that's quite a job you've done on the door jamb - looks great !!

[cooperd70]

Fantastic work (as always) ? And Happy Year Year to you!

[minimissions]

Like the above comment fantastic work, this pup is really coming together now.