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Best Answer Spider , 29 June 2018 - 08:16 PM

The bearings in the Photo are Timkens. Timken only supply the Bearings, however, which bought as a kit, they come with a seal and a split pin, which Timken don't supply, hence why it's not in a Timken box, though, I have noticed some Timken Kits, complete with Seals and Pins, popping up for the fronts. 

 

I've been supplied a few kits like the one you have in recent years and they are fine.

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Posted 06 June 2024 - 09:55 AM

 

Is it confirmed that this is the correct Timken bearing for the rear wheels?

 

Would this be the part number GHK1548?

 

 

These are the real deal;-

 

http://www.minispare...|Back to search

 

They include an O Ring which wasn't used on the early cars, but otherwise is 100% Timken.

 

 

Thanks, unfortunately not stocked by classic mini spares places here. Can be ordered but will take 3 to 4 weeks most likely to arrive. I sometimes get bearings from a local bearing distributor but it would be helpful if I can supply him with as much info as possible for him to get the correct bearings. 



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Posted 06 June 2024 - 10:00 AM

I must admit I was disappointed to find that the last set of Timkens I bought came with a shim to sit under the outer race(s).

I don't know if this is their answer to worn hubs, or whether they are actually using a light different spec of bearing that isn't quite what it should be.

 

Needless to say, the measurement they give as to when you need the shim was hard to take accurately.  I ended up building the hub up to then realise I needed to fit the shim to get rid of play.



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Posted 06 June 2024 - 10:30 AM

I must admit I was disappointed to find that the last set of Timkens I bought came with a shim to sit under the outer race(s).

I don't know if this is their answer to worn hubs, or whether they are actually using a light different spec of bearing that isn't quite what it should be.

 

Needless to say, the measurement they give as to when you need the shim was hard to take accurately.  I ended up building the hub up to then realise I needed to fit the shim to get rid of play.

 

The shim is used for later Rover hubs, no issue on genuine early hubs.



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Posted 06 June 2024 - 12:18 PM

Are the later Rover hubs dimensionally different then? I thought the hub was the same spec all the way through.

I don't remember getting a shim in the bearings I bought 10 years ago



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Posted 06 June 2024 - 01:43 PM

Are the later Rover hubs dimensionally different then? I thought the hub was the same spec all the way through.

I don't remember getting a shim in the bearings I bought 10 years ago

 

Yes, was never really an issue until people started buying new old stock Rover hubs.



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Posted 06 June 2024 - 07:07 PM


Is it confirmed that this is the correct Timken bearing for the rear wheels?

Would this be the part number GHK1548?



These are the real deal;-

http://www.minispare...|Back to search

They include an O Ring which wasn't used on the early cars, but otherwise is 100% Timken.

These now come with a shim and instructions to use the shim if the shoulder inside the hub is less than 11.87mm

@Spider, do you know why they fitted the oil seal with open face towards backing plate when using tapered bearings? Any harm in fitting it the opposite way?

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Posted 07 June 2024 - 09:53 AM

These now come with a shim and instructions to use the shim if the shoulder inside the hub is less than 11.87mm

@Spider, do you know why they fitted the oil seal with open face towards backing plate when using tapered bearings? Any harm in fitting it the opposite way?

 

 

Thanks for the heads up on the shim. I haven't seen these as yet.

If I recall, if fitted 'conventionally' the lips on the genuine seals would foul on the cone of the bearing.



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Posted 07 June 2024 - 10:16 AM

 

These now come with a shim and instructions to use the shim if the shoulder inside the hub is less than 11.87mm

@Spider, do you know why they fitted the oil seal with open face towards backing plate when using tapered bearings? Any harm in fitting it the opposite way?

 

 

Thanks for the heads up on the shim. I haven't seen these as yet.

If I recall, if fitted 'conventionally' the lips on the genuine seals would foul on the cone of the bearing.

 

 

I've never fitted it that way - always closed side to the outside of the hub.  Never had an issue.



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Posted 07 June 2024 - 07:59 PM

I've never fitted it that way - always closed side to the outside of the hub.  Never had an issue.

 

It depends of the type / brand of the seal and how long it's lips are.
 



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Posted 08 June 2024 - 09:43 AM





Is it confirmed that this is the correct Timken bearing for the rear wheels?

Would this be the part number GHK1548?



These are the real deal;-

http://www.minispare...|Back to search

They include an O Ring which wasn't used on the early cars, but otherwise is 100% Timken.

Thanks, unfortunately not stocked by classic mini spares places here. Can be ordered but will take 3 to 4 weeks most likely to arrive. I sometimes get bearings from a local bearing distributor but it would be helpful if I can supply him with as much info as possible for him to get the correct bearings.

I ended up ordering non genuine from the mini spares place I usually get parts from. My local bearing guy can't get the timken but can get Fersa and DPI bearings with the spec I provided him with. Anyone heard of either Fersa or DPI bearings?

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Posted 08 June 2024 - 09:39 PM

Fersa is Spanish based and while it does seem they do have manufacturing facilities there, that appears more for volume stuff, eg, current production vehicles. They may do their slower moving bearings there too, but they may not. I cant comment on their quality.

DPI too, I don't know of but are based in the Middle East (Dubai).

I did try a few years back a few after market brands as the cost of Timkens is rater high, however, I found the best bearing in these went for about 2500 km and the worst about 120 km. One even locked up (and others here have had similar experiences). Buy cheap, buy twice. To me, now there is only one brand of wheel bearings available for Mini - period. There are others that say they are, but from my experience, they definitely are not.



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Posted 09 June 2024 - 08:01 AM

Fersa is Spanish based and while it does seem they do have manufacturing facilities there, that appears more for volume stuff, eg, current production vehicles. They may do their slower moving bearings there too, but they may not. I cant comment on their quality.

DPI too, I don't know of but are based in the Middle East (Dubai).

I did try a few years back a few after market brands as the cost of Timkens is rater high, however, I found the best bearing in these went for about 2500 km and the worst about 120 km. One even locked up (and others here have had similar experiences). Buy cheap, buy twice. To me, now there is only one brand of wheel bearings available for Mini - period. There are others that say they are, but from my experience, they definitely are not.


Thank you for the feedback. I ordered the non genuine for the rear because I really need to move the car and get it off the axle stands. The aftermarket is all that I can find from the SA classic mini parts suppliers. They can order the timken, it costs the GBP price you guys pay plus import duties, taxes and mark-up, etc. And would take 3 to 4 weeks to get here. That's just how it is unfortunately.

I'll probably order the timken at some point but for the short term, I'm out of options. I have timken in the front and the one rear has been on ball bearing type bearings for many years.




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