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#901 HUBBA.HUBBA

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Posted 17 December 2019 - 06:13 PM

Do it!!!
Twin supercharged?

Was thinking supercharged at the back and natural at the front giving it a 40fronf/60rear power distribution. Having an engine in the back would give it a bit more weight, so then I could really lighten my mini and then tow it to shows legally.

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Posted 17 December 2019 - 06:15 PM

Is there not a law against two engines running on separate gearboxes etc for a road going car


Bloody law makers. Have to investigate further.

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Posted 17 December 2019 - 07:30 PM

Cant see why it wouldn't be legal. Insurance could be an issue, and maybe MOT emmisions with this thing being quite new?

Supercharged rear, NA front sounds like a good idea yeah. Give the front wheels a break in corners ?

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Posted 17 December 2019 - 07:53 PM

Can't be any different legally to modern hybrids with an engine at the front and a motor at the back surely?

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Posted 18 December 2019 - 08:23 AM

Thinking of putting an engine in the back and make if 4wd. Am I mad? How hard can it be? Could pinch a few ideas from the gtm forum. Is there any reason why I can't have the gear selector rod coming out of the of the selector box and connecting to a gtm selector rod and have the normal one coming out the front?

 

Are you mad ? Well,,,,, it might sound a good idea but given it's largely not a reversible modification (as far as the body goes), I'd strong suggest you find one (Mini or Moke) to try first. Yes, it will have some added get up and go, but they are not as good as might first appear and certainly handling suffers in a big way - in part because of the added weight at the back and also in part because of the suspension set up and bump steer (which with some careful planing, can be largely dialed out).

 

A few people have modified the gearbox in the way you are thinking, though, you'll loose reverse gear you also need to fit an engine steady, that will couple both engines together as well as the gear shifter, otherwise, one engine will cause the other to slip out of gear quite often. You can't use the stock steady mount on the front engine though, or you'll soon tear it clean off.



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Posted 18 December 2019 - 12:33 PM

 

Is there not a law against two engines running on separate gearboxes etc for a road going car


Bloody law makers. Have to investigate further.

 

That's my understanding too.

 

Can't be any different legally to modern hybrids with an engine at the front and a motor at the back surely?

...photographic evidence on this forum in a leccy Mini conversion topic.

 

The whole regulatory system has moved on though. ABS & Airbags are a thing but we can't legally touch 'em as amateur builders.

 

It's all type approval and don't touch on new cars.

 

Pity because you could keep your engines in sync with electronics at least as reliably as mechanically nowadays.



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Posted 31 December 2019 - 04:08 PM

Had a word with my MOT chap yesterday and he had no problem with it. I have to officially have one engine to use only off road. So that'll be my long term plan.

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Posted 31 December 2019 - 04:10 PM

Started the motor up today and oil looks good. No mayo, Oil pressure ok. So fingers crossed.

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Posted 31 December 2019 - 04:15 PM

Did a bit on the roof today. It's about 20mm too narrow atm but I have some adjustments to make.Attached File  20191231_122946_resized.jpg   52.87K   0 downloads

Started the targa part first and will make the rest up to it.
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Posted 31 December 2019 - 06:45 PM

Looking good, how is it going to be attached to the car?

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Posted 31 December 2019 - 09:11 PM

Looks good. are you going to leave the finish as is ?

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Posted 01 January 2020 - 10:56 AM

Looking good, how is it going to be attached to the car?


Was thinking thick velcro straps or exhaust u bolts

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Posted 01 January 2020 - 10:57 AM

Looks good. are you going to leave the finish as is ?


Undecided really. Ths roof is a bit dented so just may leave it as it is.

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Posted 01 January 2020 - 11:07 AM

 

Looking good, how is it going to be attached to the car?


Was thinking thick velcro straps or exhaust u bolts

 

 

Or maybe some over-centre clips, nice and secure but easily removable 



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Posted 01 January 2020 - 03:01 PM

Looking good, how is it going to be attached to the car?


Was thinking thick velcro straps or exhaust u bolts
 
Or maybe some over-centre clips, nice and secure but easily removable
What do they look like?




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