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#1 MontpellierVanMan

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Posted 10 June 2016 - 05:58 PM

Is there a secret to this ?

 

My A+ 1275 Metro block/head were in the original BL red, and after a desultory attempt with paint-stripper seemed to get them clean - although still resolutely red - I used POR15 Engine Paint from Frost to turn them both yellow.

 

HOWEVER ! Despite several coats (the stuff is hopeless at the "single-coat" covering they claim) and a good period of drying, gentle warming etc - as soon as the engine got really hot the yellow started to go slightly orange, and almost red where there had been lots of red BL paint.

 

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This was the beginning of the problem - just above the petrol-pump orifice, the effect of a heat-gun within the block, inadvertently left for about 30 secs against the wall, started going orange.

 

The red was working itself into the yellow, and whilst the POR15 gave a satisfactory shine it a) wasn't yellow any more, b) stained really easily (including anti-freeze) and c) chipped very easily.

 

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And once it had got SERIOUSLY hot, the thing began to look pretty naff.

 

SO since the motor is apart again, I decided that I stood more chance of getting a stable colour if I painted it ............... red.

 

I've now started using copious quantities of the most hideous paint-stripper known to French paint-suppliers, and am on my second treat-and-scrape session, but whilst I can get the yellow off pretty easily, the original BL red is still sticking like proverbial s to a b.

 

Has anyone got any experience of a solution / a product that really does get rid of this ?

 

Obviously it can be removed with enough rotating wire-brushes and emery sleeves, but that seems a ton of work to remove red paint !

 

And I won't use bead-blasting on any sand-cast engine cases, having seen many years ago what (sometimes) happens.

 

 



#2 Craig89

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Posted 10 June 2016 - 07:06 PM

I had mine chemically cleaned by an engine machinist and when it came back it was still prodominently red. But it gave a great key for the BMC green enamel brush on paint, as supplied by minispares, which went on great and looked great until i sold the car

#3 Carlos W

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Posted 10 June 2016 - 07:44 PM

I cleaned mine with a wire wheel in a drill.

 

But then painted it red again



#4 Coxie

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Posted 10 June 2016 - 08:31 PM

Did mine with a wire wheel and a dremmel in the hard to get to corners then etch primed before painting.

#5 MacGyver

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Posted 10 June 2016 - 08:50 PM

Same here.







...made a right mess of my workbench when I hit a bit of gasket... 😕

#6 mk1leg

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Posted 10 June 2016 - 09:47 PM

I used this http://www.holden.co...m&pCode=099.044

its brilliant it ate through the BL red back to bare block then I used thinners to wash off stripper residue and then gave it a hot power wash



#7 Fast Ivan

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Posted 11 June 2016 - 07:52 AM

Burn it off

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Posted 11 June 2016 - 08:21 AM

I use oxy - propane or oxy acetylene torch. This loosens the paint then you can use a wire wheel.

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Edited by ACDodd, 11 June 2016 - 10:55 AM.


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Posted 11 June 2016 - 10:10 AM

I use oxy - propane or oxy acetylene torch. This loosens the paint then you cam use a wire wheel.
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Roofing specialists burning torch

On a bare block, wouldn't advise it on a built engine!

Edited by cal844, 11 June 2016 - 10:11 AM.


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Posted 11 June 2016 - 10:52 AM

I have the blow torch type and its not hot/concentrated enough to get the paint to loosen. The roofing torch does not work. It is very good at warming the entire engine block.
Yes I agree, only do this with the block stripped out.

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Edited by ACDodd, 11 June 2016 - 10:54 AM.


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Posted 11 June 2016 - 01:10 PM

After reading reports I used Screwfix paint remover in a side by side test with Nitromors and surprisingly found the Screwfix product better. Once you've cleaned it up as best you can I would suggest you paint it with self etch primer before applying the finish coat

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Posted 11 June 2016 - 02:42 PM

After reading reports I used Screwfix paint remover in a side by side test with Nitromors and surprisingly found the Screwfix product better. Once you've cleaned it up as best you can I would suggest you paint it with self etch primer before applying the finish coat

 

The new formulation of Nitromors is rubbish compared to what it was like a few years ago - the old stuff was brilliant, but you soon knew if you accidentally caught some on a piece of exposed skin!



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Posted 11 June 2016 - 02:47 PM

I thought a red engine adds 10hp? Or is that just brake callipers? :-P

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Posted 11 June 2016 - 02:48 PM

 

After reading reports I used Screwfix paint remover in a side by side test with Nitromors and surprisingly found the Screwfix product better. Once you've cleaned it up as best you can I would suggest you paint it with self etch primer before applying the finish coat

 

The new formulation of Nitromors is rubbish compared to what it was like a few years ago - the old stuff was brilliant, but you soon knew if you accidentally caught some on a piece of exposed skin!

 

You're right it is rubbish. I'd not been very successful with the Nitromors so I started looking for alternatives and that's when I came across the mentions of the Screwfix product on a couple of trade forums.



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Posted 11 June 2016 - 02:59 PM

I painted mine blue using the enamel paint that I got at London to Brighton. Lovely finish. And no red has come through whilst it's been under the bench...

 

However, I may have to do some engine work to re-gain the potential extra 10bhp obtained from a red finish.  :w00t:


Edited by MrBounce, 11 June 2016 - 03:00 PM.





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