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[Haynes]

Went to a local tool shop and he suggested a Jasic Synergic welder, nearly £1K but he had a demo one for £500.  

 

http://www.wellyweld...kage-73184.aspx

 

I believe it automatically senses and controls the wire feed making it easier to get a good weld.  

 

Are they any good, or should i save money and just go for a sub £300 welder?

 

 

 

[Daz1968]

Depends how much use you want out of it, cheap tools have their place but if using everyday or for business then it can be false economy,

[FlyingScot]

Do a search on here http://www.mig-welding.co.uk
There is a section covering welders, enter Jasic in search, you'll find what you need....


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[slidehammer]

I have seen some excellent welding people have done here on Clarke welders and they are much cheaper than that. But if you are using it everyday then like Daz said in a business environment then you need to spend more on a professional set up. If it is for hobby welding then on of the Clarke 135 or 150 Turbos would be a good start point. You want a refillable bottle of Argon Shield Light or similar don't waste money on disposable bottles and don't use CO2 the welds are not as clean.

[tiger99]

I would just add to those wise words by pointing out that to get enough welding practice on offcuts of 0.9mm and 1.2mm sheet before tackling the car, disposable bottles would cost much more than a year's rental and a refill on a BOC bottle, and that is before you have even touched the car! The  economics of disposables are dire. As daft as fitting oversills. Penny pinch once any pay several times over...

 

And please don't even think about gasless, which is not MIG at all, and utterly unsuitable for structural welding on cars.

[DomCr250]

You would probably see a difference in your welding capabilities in the more expensive welder. Basically a good welder can weld with almost anything, but a beginner will find it easier with a better machine.

I've welded for over 40 years, started on big Oxford oil filled arc machines and then moved to a Ckarke. The Clarke was fine as a hobby welder with a limited usage, but the wire feed was poor and welding thin stuff or Ali was almost impossible.

Moving to a professional mig made everything much easier and you get features like a euro torch and long duty cycles.

If you are only doing hobby stuff the boc contracts can be expensive unless you can find a special deal the rental free bottles are expensive upfront but cheaper over a year if you don't use loads of gas.

As said above practice makes perfect and lookout for the frying eggs sound of the arc, if you get that you are starting to win

[Daz1968]

I recently changed from hobbyweld to a boc rental, I get 4 x the gas of a hobbyweld for almost the same price, rental is about £47 per year so works out far cheaper.

[DomCr250]

I recently changed from hobbyweld to a boc rental, I get 4 x the gas of a hobbyweld for almost the same price, rental is about £47 per year so works out far cheaper.

Is that the volksworld deal? If so I agree that stacks up better than the hobby weld purchase if you use more than a bottle a year. So I suppose it depends on usage?

[Daz1968]

Yes the volkszone deal, and don't forget if you only need for a project you can return once finished and get a refund on any rent, the hobbyweld was ok but when I used a cylinder in 3 Saturdays of work I realised it wasn't economical for me.
Another company offered a similar cylinder to boc but their deposit was a one year right of use and no refund on deposit was offered after 12 months and gas was 2x price so again this was not viable.