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#1 slowy

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Posted 01 January 2016 - 08:19 PM

Has anyone wired in a push start button do you have to keep key as well I'm not to hot on electrics .cheers for any help .

#2 Alex_B

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Posted 01 January 2016 - 08:23 PM

The key will still be required for the steering lock if your car is newer than mk1 or mk2. But you can wire in the push starter to have switches that power on the acc and run circuits with a button to engage the starter motor but that does leave your car open to be stolen very easily as it needs no key to start the engine. 

 



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Posted 01 January 2016 - 08:42 PM

Yeah go for it the doors locks on the mini are incredibly robust.

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Posted 01 January 2016 - 08:53 PM

The key will still be required for the steering lock if your car is newer than mk1 or mk2. But you can wire in the push starter to have switches that power on the acc and run circuits with a button to engage the starter motor but that does leave your car open to be stolen very easily as it needs no key to start the engine. 

 

 

 

Unless you get a hidden battery kill switch somewhere around the car



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Posted 01 January 2016 - 08:56 PM

 

The key will still be required for the steering lock if your car is newer than mk1 or mk2. But you can wire in the push starter to have switches that power on the acc and run circuits with a button to engage the starter motor but that does leave your car open to be stolen very easily as it needs no key to start the engine. 

 

 

 

Unless you get a hidden battery kill switch somewhere around the car

 

Good plan, what about one that requires a key for safety? Lol.



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Posted 01 January 2016 - 08:59 PM

Why? What's the benefit?

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Posted 01 January 2016 - 09:01 PM

The real answer is that it is not as simple as people think, first problem is the steering lock, next is that you need a retractive switch to fire the starter which is ok but you also need then to have the ignition switched on from somewhere or your coil will burn out, the best thing for that is a key as it gives security and function. So keep the key but wire in a separate push button to fire the actual starter motor is the right way, if you are going to do that then the best place to put the key is on the column so you can have a steering lock too.



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Posted 01 January 2016 - 09:08 PM

You will find a wire which goes from the 'start' position to the starter solenoid. It should be white/red. 

Fit a power feed to the new push-button and then remove the white/red key-switch to solenoid cable and run it from the starter button to the solenoid.

The key is still required for the ignition/acc feed, but the 'start' position on the key will no longer work.

A push button is more reliable than the key switch.



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Posted 01 January 2016 - 10:15 PM

Momentary toggle switch with a little flick up cover. Win

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Posted 01 January 2016 - 11:31 PM

I just use a Mk.2 Jaguar starter button and it works fine.



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Posted 02 January 2016 - 08:42 AM

I did this with ignition,acc and a fuel pump on a 3 separate toggle switches followed by the push start button. Does look 'cool' but not so when you forget to put the key in for the steering lock. Happened a few times and lucky I didn't cause damage. I wouldn't do it again.

Edited by paz, 02 January 2016 - 08:44 AM.


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Posted 02 January 2016 - 08:51 AM

It's done on rally cars because if you, for example, spin the car on a test and stall all you have to do is hit the button which is much quicker than having to find and turn the key, especially if it's a Mk.1 or Mk.2 where the key is in the centre, as mine is.

The early Mk1. cars had a push button between the front seats and that worked OK except that the terminals were right where they would get covered in 'DGS' and corrosion caused problems sometimes.



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Posted 02 January 2016 - 09:16 AM

All of these methods still required a key originally on road cars to cut the ignition feed, the three flip switches has been done before without killing the feed, it is a great way of burning out a coil, gives no steering wheel lock or way of securing the car, great on a rally car, is it a rally car?



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Posted 02 January 2016 - 12:29 PM

http://www.ebay.co.u...tm/262182699125

Iv always thought this would be fun, would have to loose steering lock though

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Posted 02 January 2016 - 12:39 PM

http://www.ebay.co.u...tm/262182699125

Iv always thought this would be fun, would have to loose steering lock though

I thought about RFID entry a while back but its far too easy to crack unless you have a complex changing encryption. Not so much of an issue yet as its still not a very commonly used technology and you wouldn't expect it to be used in a classic, but as it is getting more popular it will also get more likely to be broken into. 






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