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Best Answer Minitransition , 05 November 2015 - 02:33 PM

SOLVED !

 

Machine shop went to recut valve insert seats on cylinder with loose inserts and identified a minor crack which could not be seen prior to machining, see photo. Crack is between blue lines.

 

So - theory is exhaust valve crack generated overheating or hot spot which made other insert loose.

 

Glad I found it before re-assembly !

 

Thanks for all the advice - I find it useful if a conclusion is posted when known. New head purchased !!

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#16 Pigeonto

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Posted 30 October 2015 - 07:32 PM

Yup, my original '92 12G940 head has all 8 fitted with inserts



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Posted 30 October 2015 - 07:37 PM

Factory unleaded heads have hardened inserts in the inlet and exhaust, but those aren't factory ones!
Get another head that's not been molested

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Posted 30 October 2015 - 07:49 PM

And to add factory unleaded 12g940 heads on have inserts for the exhaust valves only.

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Posted 31 October 2015 - 12:02 AM

All the factory heads for unleaded only had them in the exhausts, however if in manufacture a seat was 'not right' they wouldn't scrap the heads either, they would only then fit inserts from the factory.



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Posted 31 October 2015 - 12:08 AM

Edit to my last ^

 

 

Woah there, factory 998 heads do have an insert for both inlet and exhaust valves.

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When did they start doing this?  

 

Learn something all the time.


Edited by Moke Spider, 31 October 2015 - 12:09 AM.


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Posted 31 October 2015 - 12:41 AM

1989, from the inception of the factory unleaded 998 head. engine number 99HE onwards.

 

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Posted 31 October 2015 - 01:18 PM

Thanks guys ! Hot topic and we have all learned sommat !

 

So - the engine and head (I thought were both original as they were mustard colour) are from a November 1989 Auto. The engine number is indeed 99HE21103540.

 

So - machine shop is checking that the other 6 will not pull out and is then fitting new inserts correctly to cylinder 2 whilst also replacing a corroded by-pass pipe. If any of the other inserts move when pulled I will declare time on this head and start again !

 

Could even be an original Rover / Mini tolerance ******* up from 1989 ?

 

The previous owner had clearly been trying to rectify a misfire as all new plugs, leads etc were fitted and as I mentioned cylinder 2 had carbon soaked in fuel - so I think I have found the cause ! I doubt an insert that can be lifted out with a finger nail would be gas tight !



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Posted 31 October 2015 - 06:57 PM

1989, from the inception of the factory unleaded 998 head. engine number 99HE onwards.

 

AC

 

I did have a look following reading your post here, and there you go. Thanks.

 

I haven't dabbled intimately in small bore stuff for a long time, so I'm not up to speed with these smaller details in the later engines.



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Posted 05 November 2015 - 02:33 PM   Best Answer

SOLVED !

 

Machine shop went to recut valve insert seats on cylinder with loose inserts and identified a minor crack which could not be seen prior to machining, see photo. Crack is between blue lines.

 

So - theory is exhaust valve crack generated overheating or hot spot which made other insert loose.

 

Glad I found it before re-assembly !

 

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