Mini Mad
Posted 01 November 2015 - 08:41 PM
I ordered some mini spares cones which arrived this week. They look good quality but the only thing I can knock is the black paint is rubbish on them. It just scratches off wit your finger nails. Anyway I've rubber it all of and repainted them with some better paint to make the metal last a bit longer.
Camshaft & Stage Two Head
Posted 01 November 2015 - 10:54 PM
Get some dynax UC clear wax sprayed on the metal parts and they will last ages. Great stuff. While you're at it treat the underside of the car too....
Doesn't put foot in mouth enough!
Posted 01 November 2015 - 11:56 PM
I'm not sure the Hi-Los are a track weapon kind of deal. like people have said before they mostly allow for a lot more adjustment once the cones start sagging. I have a set waiting to go on my Innocenti. Personally I was wondering if anybody had any experience with the ones listed as progressive spring rate cones?
All rubber cones for the mini have a progressive spring rate, its a required characteristic due to the small amount of suspension travel. Which cones were you wondering about?
Moved Into The Garage
Posted 02 November 2015 - 12:17 AM
They look good quality but the only thing I can knock is the black paint is rubbish on them. It just scratches off wit your finger nails.
Yeap, original even down to the paint!
I'm not sure the Hi-Los are a track weapon kind of deal. like people have said before they mostly allow for a lot more adjustment once the cones start sagging. I have a set waiting to go on my Innocenti. Personally I was wondering if anybody had any experience with the ones listed as progressive spring rate cones?
All rubber cones for the mini have a progressive spring rate, its a required characteristic due to the small amount of suspension travel. Which cones were you wondering about?
Actually, I found on test that the Cones themselves have a fairly linear rate. It's the Flange on the Trumpet where all the Technology (and progressive rate) is. Simple as they may appear, there is much more to it all than meets the eye.
Dr. Moulton was a very cleaver guy indeed, though I'm also of little doubt that this was something that would have taken many many miles of road testing to get it where it is today. Pretty incredible when you consider that the basic design was little changed from 1959 right up to 2000.
Up Into Fourth
Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:32 PM
Moke Spider is again spot-on about how the trumpet design affects the overall suspension on a Mini.
The original saloon rear trumpets had a very narrow shoulder, the van/estate ones were a lot wider to allow for greater load carrying without bottoming out the suspension. All of the more recent rear trumpets I have seen seem to be using the wider shoulder.
I remember helping my dad back in the 70's when he was building a new garage. We picked up bags of sand from the local builders merchants and loaded up our old mini estate until the back was almost scraping along the ground. Amazing how much it could carry!
Moved Into The Garage
Posted 02 November 2015 - 08:49 PM
All of the more recent rear trumpets I have seen seem to be using the wider shoulder.
I remember helping my dad back in the 70's when he was building a new garage. We picked up bags of sand from the local builders merchants and loaded up our old mini estate until the back was almost scraping along the ground. Amazing how much it could carry!
That's interesting Carbon. So are these the late model Minis you are referring and the Van type Trumpets? They are the same ones our Big Wheel Mokes also have.
Load - yes, you are not wrong!
Our Mokes, empty, weigh in about 620 - 640 kg yet at the 'end' of a trip we did a couple of years back, we have the opportunity to put them on a weigh bridge - with all our 'gear' and my own tipped the scales at 1180 kg 
Just don't mention that the rated GVM (Gross Vehicle Mass) is only 998 kg,,,,,,,,
This is on the return leg of that trip, so I'd had that boat anchor in the back for nearly 5 weeks at this stage and you can see how well the back end still sits up
One Carb Or Two?
Posted 02 November 2015 - 11:31 PM
I do like to see a moke being used properly and not just for posing around in!
by the way regarding nomenclature, we used to call the ally parts "cones" or "trumpets" and the Moulton rubbers "donuts". Why/when did this change?
Speeding Along Now
Posted 07 November 2015 - 10:07 PM
I'm not sure the Hi-Los are a track weapon kind of deal. like people have said before they mostly allow for a lot more adjustment once the cones start sagging. I have a set waiting to go on my Innocenti. Personally I was wondering if anybody had any experience with the ones listed as progressive spring rate cones?
All rubber cones for the mini have a progressive spring rate, its a required characteristic due to the small amount of suspension travel. Which cones were you wondering about?
I've seen cones advertised as Red dot and Yellow dot, for instance at Mini Spares, or the Moss uprated vs standard with no clear explanation.
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