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#61 Daz1968

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Posted 29 October 2015 - 10:10 AM

yes unfortunately not a cooper or s originally.



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Posted 29 October 2015 - 07:53 PM

M-A2S6S-638723A is a Morris Super de Luxe from early 1969. The first 1969 Morris SDL was 637884.

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Posted 29 October 2015 - 07:58 PM

It was registered with the DVLA as a Morris Mini 1000 in March 1969 so I'm not sure what log book has Cooper S on it. O_O

 



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Posted 29 October 2015 - 10:08 PM

Wow glad I kept up the questions!how have they got a v5 that matches the chassis number stating its a Morris Cooper S!?id this fraudulent surely?

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Posted 29 October 2015 - 10:16 PM

The log books are sold on eBay etc all the time as "memorabilia" which is dodgy. Then more dodgy people buy them and turn cheap/stolen cars into Coopers and make money.

This one doesn't add up

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Posted 29 October 2015 - 11:00 PM

As I said earlier .... A v5 with chassis plates etc sold on eBay for £2000 last month..... It'll end up just like this car , someone will come along in good faith and pay a lot of money for it and probably won't know any different

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Posted 29 October 2015 - 11:11 PM

E.g.

http://www.ebay.co.u...tgAAOSwo0JWJhrz



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Posted 29 October 2015 - 11:22 PM

Wow glad I kept up the questions!how have they got a v5 that matches the chassis number stating its a Morris Cooper S!?id this fraudulent surely?

 

It was quite easy in past years (especially pre-computerisation) to modify a standard Mini to Cooper or S spec and then write to the DVLA or its predecessor (or your local vehicle registration office) to ask for the vehicle description to be changed on the log book at the same time as you asked for a change of engine number, etc, most times the log book came back with your request granted..........but the Mini or S was not a valuable classic car at the time.



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Posted 30 October 2015 - 08:16 AM

 

Shocking!! 



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Posted 30 October 2015 - 08:28 AM

The car chassis number complete matches the v5 log book,and the v5 states it is a Morris cooper S,is it possible to fake this?

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Posted 30 October 2015 - 08:42 AM

Yes , chances are the chassis number as been cut from the original car then welded into that one ?

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Posted 30 October 2015 - 09:56 AM

The car chassis number complete matches the v5 log book,and the v5 states it is a Morris cooper S,is it possible to fake this?

Are you sure you are looking at a current V5C? Or is it an overseas logbook of some type? Do you have a picture of it? I understand that the chassis number will match but the following is what DVLA have about it which clearly states Mini 1000 not Cooper S:

 

NDL 462G

 

Make             MORRIS

Model            MINI 1000

Colour           BLUE/WHITE

Year              1969

Engine Size  1275cc

 

 

Yes, chances are the chassis number has been cut from the original car then welded into that one ?

James

There is no need to cut anything when the chassis plate is attached by two self tapping screws, however it is not an S chassis number. I have checked with the FE Number guru and he says the FE Number and chassis number match in terms of date.



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Posted 30 October 2015 - 12:38 PM

Yes , chances are the chassis number as been cut from the original car then welded into that one ?

James

 

Only later Mini's from the 1980's onwards had any chassis number actually stamped in the metalwork of the bonnet drip rail channel......as said above a 1969 car only has a chassis plate attached with screws!



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Posted 30 October 2015 - 12:50 PM

Ah that's where I'm getting mixed up ..... Thanks for clearing that up for me

Cheers james

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Posted 30 October 2015 - 01:25 PM

Are you aware that you cant buy that car in italy? you have to register the V5 change in the uk and ask for export plates.






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