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#1 mab01uk

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Posted 19 December 2014 - 07:37 PM

(Re-posting this topic in the more relevant archive section as it was long lost in general Mini Chat - MAB)

 

Underbonnet photo of the first automatic Mini prototype in 1962
 

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In 1965 the world's smallest automatic gearbox arrived, specially developed by Automotive Products. All parts were housed in the sump and uniquely lubricated by circulating the engine oil. Announced in 1965 but because of many problems only became available in quantity from 1967 making Mk1 versions very rare. Early testing revealed that oil surge in the sump under cornering could cause oil starvation of the torque converter and sky-high engine revs. To compensate for this failing the oil pump was moved to the centre of the sump and oil capacity was increased.

Final assembly problems also arose and manufacture of the gearboxes was transferred to clinically clean, dust free rooms to ensure a dependable assembly of the unit with its numerous hydraulic valves.

The design itself put all known hydraulic boxes in the shade and to make the most of the engine's meagre output, gave four speeds as against the three of other automatics current at the time.

A mechanical control ensured gear selection according to load when in automatic mode, and there was also a kick-down working directly off the throttle pedal. To compensate for the usual auto power losses on an 850cc, the compression ratio was increased to 9:1 and a larger SU carburettor with inlet manifold was fitted. (I can remember searching for the auto Mini's in scrapyards in the 1970's to aquire these parts for upgrading our 850cc manual cars!)

Useful AP Automatic Technical Information:
http://members.tripo...erica/id72.html

 

Mini-1100 AP Automatic Transmission:
http://www.austinmem...-105/index.html

Automatic Mini Register:
http://autominiregister.proboards.com/

 

I have been told by an ex-BMC/BL worker that apparently there was a man in Longbridge who's sole and only job was to mate 7 A-series engines and AP autoboxes together each and every working day! :lol:


Edited by mab01uk, 10 November 2024 - 08:00 PM.


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Posted 06 March 2016 - 11:18 PM

BMC Pathe film on factory build of the Mini/1100/1300 Automatic Gearbox

 



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Posted 07 March 2016 - 12:57 AM

Does the sound work for you all on the vid above?



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Posted 07 March 2016 - 07:03 AM

No sound unfortunately.......but the film is easy to follow without audio and has very detailed close up shots on the factory build up of an A-Series automatic engine and AP transmission.



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Posted 21 June 2016 - 09:39 AM

Great vid that one, thanks for posting up the Link mab01uk.

 

Many a budding engine builder I think could learn a bit from that, one thing I saw a LOT of was check, check, test and check - each and every part. There were NO short cuts anywhere in that production line.

 

Also of interest was few fitted with (Pollution) Air Pumps.



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Posted 09 July 2016 - 06:36 AM

Did you find any in the scrappiest ? Great post by the way it amazes me the knowledge you have
May I ask are you on the mk1 forum

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Posted 09 July 2016 - 09:56 PM

Did you find any in the scrappiest ? Great post by the way it amazes me the knowledge you have
May I ask are you on the mk1 forum

 

Mini Autos were often found in the scrapyards back in the 1970's so we found quite a few that donated their larger SU carb to upgrade our smaller carbed manual 850cc Mini's and without the insurance penalty of twin SU's for young drivers.

 

Yes I am also sometimes on the Mk1 Forum which is a great resource for early Mini's and have also donated some period info to the main Mk1 Performance website over the years:-

http://mk1-performan...k/mk1_index.htm



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Posted 10 July 2016 - 06:46 AM

I thought so are you the chap who's just bought his son a cool clubby estate

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Posted 11 July 2016 - 06:02 AM

That would be Mark (mk1) the owner of the forum if you are referring to this post. 

http://mk1-forum.net...php?f=6&t=15969

 

mab01uk has the same username on both forums

http://mk1-forum.net...ewprofile&u=141



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Posted 10 November 2024 - 07:59 PM

Keith Gerrard and the 5-speed AP Auto box...."a little known part of BL history that deserves to be more widely known."

"There was a much altered and uprated 5-speed (instead of 4-speed) AP1 Mini Automatic gearbox developed by Keith Gerrard of Bushey Transmissions in conjunction with Jack Knight, which was fitted with a clutch with extra radial shock springs in place of a torque converter and an electronic shift mechanism."

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Details and comments below are from Keith Gerrard posted in a thread on the Autosport forums:-
https://forums.autos...-who-was-worst/
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The article below is from the September 1979 issue of Cars and Car Conversions in which an early development of Keith Gerrard’s Mini Hot Rod auto box was tested.
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Another article below from CCC about the Midas rally car equipped with the Gerrard Auto based on the AP transmission.
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