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[steah]

Just googled it... like a 'tiptronic' I believe?

[The Matt]

Can I ask why you want a sequential box?  I mean, what do you see as the main benefits and why do you see it as being necessary for your build?

[mab01uk]

 

Thanks guys, but jeez the price! Had a thought last night while I was using my lego to model e sequential box, would it not be possible to just convert an auto to where it was more, semi auto? So you controlled when it changed but it did the work? Just a thought? Tell me if thats a stupid idea? So its not necessarily a sequential, but it works in a similar fashion with regards to user input? I.e, you press a paddle to shift up, and another to go down?

The Mini Automatic can be shifted manually through all gears as standard, so you can already control when it changes yourself via the lever. When it was introduced in the 1960's few other autos allowed this option for clutchless manual gear shifting.

[steah]

The matt: the reason I want a sequential box is because the car will be 95% track oriented, and on top of this, its not in a mini shell, its an a series based track day thing, based on an a series cause I understand it and know what iI'm doing? So thr sequential box is a good idea because the engine won't be mounted in a usual manner, it won't be sideways, itll be straight.

[steah]

!Mab01uk: so it would be possible to attach a chip to control this via paddles then?

[Badboytunes]

!Mab01uk: so it would be possible to attach a chip to control this via paddles then?

 

I would say no as it is not an electronically controlled box. I may be corected tho if im wrong.........

[steah]

Well maybe a servo then? Ill look into it thanks

[cian]

Your bound to knacker the brass selector forks and syncros would have to upgrade all these and that would be pricey 

[HarrysMini]

The matt: the reason I want a sequential box is because the car will be 95% track oriented, and on top of this, its not in a mini shell, its an a series based track day thing, based on an a series cause I understand it and know what iI'm doing? So thr sequential box is a good idea because the engine won't be mounted in a usual manner, it won't be sideways, itll be straight.

You do realise there is already an A series for jnline mounting , used on Morris Minors etc.

Would be a load of unneeded hassle to try and convert a Mini A series (transverse) to be mounted inline.

[Tomm]

Afternoon

Do you know how much the motorbike internals conversion would be roughly? Cheers in advance

It is not so much a questions of money, a heck of a lot of knowledge and personal experience is involved in such a project. Matty, the chap who has built the gearbox has put a tonne of time, effort, research and money into the project, he has had trouble with some of the machining work as well I believe because he is working on such a bespoke basis.

It's an amazing feat from my standpoint and is an absolute phenomenal accomplishment on his part as far as I am concerned.

Unfortunately it's not a "how much" kind of question.

Just googled it... like a 'tiptronic' I believe?

Not quite, triptonic is effectively like a semi auto whilst leaving the driver in control of the gearbox the clutch is all taken care of. Various manafaturers use various names, BMW call it SMG, Audi call it DSG but as far as I am aware it all works on the same basis.

I have a DSG equipped Audi, it's the most fun I've ever had. If you get chance to drive one, take them up on the offer.

[HarrysMini]

 

Just googled it... like a 'tiptronic' I believe?

Not quite, triptonic is effectively like a semi auto whilst leaving the driver in control of the gearbox the clutch is all taken care of. Various manafaturers use various names, BMW call it SMG, Audi call it DSG but as far as I am aware it all works on the same basis.

I have a DSG equipped Audi, it's the most fun I've ever had. If you get chance to drive one, take them up on the offer.

 

With this, the driver is never fully in control of the gear changes. 

 

We had a DSG equipped Golf and it was just simply superb. You could hardly tell when it was changing gear. But when you put it into manual mode, it would still change up and down for you. This is what eventually lead us to swapping it for a manual MINI. 

 

I don't have much experience with sequential gearboxes, but I guess they are semi auto? I would also assume it leaves all of the gear changing to the driver, rather than changing up as soon as you reach the red line.

[Tupers]

Do you know how much the motorbike internals conversion would be roughly? Cheers in advance

 

I doubt you could get one done for any less than £10K. Unless you're recently won the lottery or have an insanely good job for a 17 year old I'd stick to a Mini Spares straight cut gear kit. 

[Artful Dodger]

its alot of money for a pointless upgrade. you will be forever rebuilding it doe to worn out dog rings and its sich a tiny gain if you were on track with it.  poooiiinnttleessss!! spend 5-6 grand on an engine instead

[steah]

The idea is to run a mini a series. We are on a tight budget, this was only an idea, if it can't be done within about 2k I wont do it, it was just an idea. Cheers guys, keep an eye out for my project thread, should appear within 2 days with my plans :)

[ANON]

so you want to run an a series inline?