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[josh austin mini city e 82]

Hi all, title says it was driving back from derby and my mini has cut out and died and now will not start. What iv checked:
Battery voltage
Turns over fine
Fuel is getting to the engine
NO SPARK at the plugs
Checked for loose wires or corroded wires
I'm about running out of ideas, as I say fuel is getting to the engine but there is no spark. Is there anything else I can check ? My money is on the ignition but I can't narrow it down to what. When it cut out it just died there was no hessetation or anything like that, was like something just stopped working instantly
If anyone had any suggestions there all welcome !
Thanks
Josh

[TehMarchant]

Points or electronic?

[josh austin mini city e 82]

Points or electronic?

Sorry forgot to mention, electronic it's a 1993 sprite engine

[richw911]

 

Points or electronic?

Sorry forgot to mention, electronic it's a 1993 sprite engine

 

Dead ignition module?

[josh austin mini city e 82]

 

Points or electronic?

Sorry forgot to mention, electronic it's a 1993 sprite engine
 

Dead ignition module?

Are they prone to fail ? I know they see quite a lot of water position where they are and the terminals inside are a little rusted. Cleaned them up but made no difference

[richw911]

 

 

 

Points or electronic?

Sorry forgot to mention, electronic it's a 1993 sprite engine
 

Dead ignition module?

Are they prone to fail ? I know they see quite a lot of water position where they are and the terminals inside are a little rusted. Cleaned them up but made no difference

 

It depends the cheap ones dont last - and they will just fail as you described. If you do need a new one go for a Lucas one from someone like simonbbc :

http://www.simonbbc....le-lucas-dab118

[josh austin mini city e 82]

 

 

 

Points or electronic?

Sorry forgot to mention, electronic it's a 1993 sprite engine
 

Dead ignition module?

Are they prone to fail ? I know they see quite a lot of water position where they are and the terminals inside are a little rusted. Cleaned them up but made no difference
 

It depends the cheap ones dont last - and they will just fail as you described. If you do need a new one go for a Lucas one from someone like simonbbc :
http://www.simonbbc....le-lucas-dab118

Is there a way I can test if it is the modular that has failed ?

[Moggyton]

I had a similar problem recently, just driving along and it died on me. Replaced the ignition module and it fired up straight away. You could take the dizzy cap off and check for a spark. But it wouldnt hurt having a spare ignition module anyway.

[richw911]

these threads may help

http://www.pistonhea...0681.76058&nmt=

http://www.vintagemo...fierTest01.html

[richw911]

This may be of help to you and others searching this issue :

 

 

If your ignition amp is dead - it may not start / have no spark or it can cause an intermittent missfire at higher revs.

You may find you have the early 2 pin type which is very hard to get hold of, you can convert it to the much more popular 3 pin type.

Even if you can get hold of a new 2 pin one it is better to have the 3 pin type as if lets you down
 the 3 pin version is usually on the shelf at most motor factors.

To run the new 3 pin type you will need a new lead to run from the module to the coil.

You can buy the new lead on ebay for £12.99 :   http://www.ebay.co.u...=item1c25639ee1

However you can also get an ignition module that comes complete with 3 pin plug : http://www.ebay.co.u...=item415b3320ec

Then you just need some wire to make your own 3 pin lead.

 

The wiring from 2 pin to 3 pin is as follows :



The centre pin is not used.

When you fit a new module be sure to apply some heat sink compound to the silver metal back of the module - this will conduct heat away from the module into the dizzy body, transistors need cooling.

Edited by richw911, 01 June 2014 - 07:21 PM.

[josh austin mini city e 82]

Thanks for all the replys, my modular is the 3 pin type anyway, I'm guessing it's a lower quality item as it was £15 off eBay where as the one that richw911 provided a link for is £30. I'll get one ordered anyway and hope it fixes the issue !

[josh austin mini city e 82]

 

 

 

Points or electronic?

Sorry forgot to mention, electronic it's a 1993 sprite engine
 

Dead ignition module?

Are they prone to fail ? I know they see quite a lot of water position where they are and the terminals inside are a little rusted. Cleaned them up but made no difference
 

It depends the cheap ones dont last - and they will just fail as you described. If you do need a new one go for a Lucas one from someone like simonbbc :
http://www.simonbbc....le-lucas-dab118

Also just to make sure will this work on my 1275 sprite engine ? It says it's for a rover metro turbo ?
Thanks

[Stiggytoo]

Has your coil given up? Were you using the correct one for your type of ignition?

[josh austin mini city e 82]

Has your coil given up? Were you using the correct one for your type of ignition?

So far as I'm aware, it's worked spot on for the past 5-6 months so I'm guessing so, I checked it with the volt meter and it's 12v

[richw911]

 

 

 

 

 

Points or electronic?

Sorry forgot to mention, electronic it's a 1993 sprite engine
 

Dead ignition module?

Are they prone to fail ? I know they see quite a lot of water position where they are and the terminals inside are a little rusted. Cleaned them up but made no difference
 

It depends the cheap ones dont last - and they will just fail as you described. If you do need a new one go for a Lucas one from someone like simonbbc :
http://www.simonbbc....le-lucas-dab118

Also just to make sure will this work on my 1275 sprite engine ? It says it's for a rover metro turbo ?
Thanks

 

yes the dab118 fit lots of old cars - see the application list on his ebay listing : http://www.ebay.co.u...n-/130549689375