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[Hegnirst]

lights

hazards

rear demister

brake test switch is not needed is it? 

 

no stupid comments please, I'm not here for that.

 

Its for my clubman.

1972, theres no fog lights

 

any i missed out?

 

thankyou

[HarrysMini]

Brake test switch is required for the MoT. The reason modern cars don't have it is because it is the handbrake light. 

 

You could always hook up a mini switch to the handbrake to the same circuit to replace the rocker switch using a brake warning light.

[Hegnirst]

Brake test switch is required for the MoT. The reason modern cars don't have it is because it is the handbrake light. 

 

You could always hook up a mini switch to the handbrake to the same circuit to replace the rocker switch using a brake warning light.

 

really? for a 72? i didn't think they had them originally though? hmm ill look more into this :) thanks

trying to find a mini loom to put in car at the moment so frustrating no ones got one!

[HarrysMini]

Oh I didn't notice your car was 72. In that case, wait for someone else to confirm.

My previous post only applies if the car had one as standard.

[The Principal]

72 Clubmans had only basic switches, mines a 73 with two position light rocker, wipers and rear demister and a mechanical push washer button there is no brake test switch as you have an earlier master cylinder. 72's didnt have hazards as standard but its an easy modification just remember if you fit additional functions they need to work for the MOT as a general rule.

[Hegnirst]

72 Clubmans had only basic switches, mines a 73 with two position light rocker, wipers and rear demister and a mechanical push washer button there is no brake test switch as you have an earlier master cylinder. 72's didnt have hazards as standard but its an easy modification just remember if you fit additional functions they need to work for the MOT as a general rule.

 

right, I've got the light switch rocker and a rear demister rocker, i have the spray i have on the stalks.

 

have you got a picture of your rockers? as this will confirm this for just the 2 rockers in the middle.

 

thanks

[Hegnirst]

Oh I didn't notice your car was 72. In that case, wait for someone else to confirm.

My previous post only applies if the car had one as standard.

 

no worries pal, 

 

thanks :)

[tiger99]

You certainly do not need the USELESS "brake test switch" on a 1972 model, only in a Mini where it was originally fitted. As I said in another thread recently, it tests neither the brakes nor the part of the warning system that is most likely to fail, only the bulb, and is the result of an ill-conceived update to the Construction and Use Regs, to keep in line with equally stupid regulations in Europe.

 

You only need aim for the standard of fit that applied to 1972 cars, which means that quite a lot of things can be omitted. Personally I would always have seatbelts front and rear, and twin circuit brakes, but the dashboard and switchgear are yours to play about with, within reason. I am not sure if the original toggle switches were still legal in 1972, but they were still used in 1970, as far as I can tell, and do not present a safety hazard to occupants correctly wearing seat belts. They are more reliable than the later rocker switches, and in my opinion much better looking.

 

But whatever loom is used, I would definitely, for safety's sake, seperate the left and right headlight earths, and same at the rear. I see that the latest Minis did, eventually, go to having left and right earth points at the front. That does not make much difference to the loom, as the earths can be on the inner wing each side.

 

But if you are using later type rockers, you can get panels with differing numbers of holes depending on just how many you want to fit, which is up to you, according to what accessories you want to fit.

 

See here:

 

http://www.somerford...page=page&id=86

http://www.somerford...age=page&id=126

 

Oh, and this is probably legal on any Mini, regardless of age, and is making a comeback on some expensive modern cars, I would have a floor mounted starter button, but only controlling the solenoid, not switching the starter current directly. Careless use could burn out the old switches, but there was something that seemed to me to be just right about that button. Again personal opinion, what looks and feels nice to one person might not be to another.

 

If you need more detailed help, make a list of everything electrical that is on, or may be going on the car later, and whoever comes along next will be able to discuss your switches and loom in more detail. Good luck with the project!