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[minibuck]

Has anyone got these fitted? I really like the look of these, is it possible to get my standard 12" steels done? Does it affect driving? Are they legal? What's the most width I could go with standard arches? I didn't really want to go any wider wheels than 5". Any help appreciated

[Alex_B]

Yes, yes, in the way all wheels affect driving, Yes and about 5.5 inches depending on offset 


I am running 10x6.5 banded steels, they are awesome in my opinion, any steel wheel can be banded but make sure you go with someone with experience of banding wheels, 12x5 or 12x5.5 wont affect the way it drives really as its about what came standard, they are as legal as any welding on a car

[minibuck]

Sweet. I'm not 100% sure what offset is? :/ I just want it to stay the same way it drives as it does now which is standard. Have u got a pic of yours?

[MattMiniS96]

Painted :) Slightly Pic Heavy

Couple of pics in this thread of mine, I have 10x 5.5. Yet to be driven on

[Alex_B]

There we go  

[megamini_jb]

I'd still love a set of banded 10s, but if they're anything like when I had some on a lupo and old civic then no thank you. Drove crap.

Edited by megamini_jb, 11 March 2014 - 10:58 PM.

[minibuck]

Looking good! I've got a fabricator lined up, just needed a bit of technical help, cheers

[minibuck]

Also Alex, where did you get the black bumpers from.? Minispares?

[Alex_B]

Also Alex, where did you get the black bumpers from.? Minispares?

 

They look good don't they, 

Its called Halfords Satin black ;) standard grey bumpers tarted up, same colour and finish as the wheel arches 

[tiger99]

Banded steel wheels, if done correctly (and there are more than a few people who have that capability), are safer than any alloys (which ALWAYS have a very finite fatigue life), and are fully legal. The key thing is indeed the offset, so you always need two bands, inboard and outboard of the wheel centre. The important thing is to keep the scrub radius identical to what it was originally, and that almost always means that the two bands will be of unequal widths. People often get the scrub radius badly wrong, with terrible effects on the handling. It can even be quite dangerous, e.g. Metro hubs on a Mini.

 

The scrub radius is the lateral distance between the centre of the tyre to road contact area and the steering axis, the line through top and bottom ball joints. The thrust due to engine power, or drag due to braking, acts at the centre of the contact patch, and results in force feedback to the steering because it is offset from the steering axis, which gives "feel".

 

You ideally need a CAD drawing, or a good scale cross-section drawing from a manual or whatever, to see what you have, and how much you need to adjust each edge of the wheel to maintain the status quo. But there is a complication, the tyre does not sit flat on the road, so if you have lots of negative camber, where is the centre of the contact patch? It is commonly taken to be the tyre centre line, but I believe that to be incorrect unless the camber angle is small.

 

Someone will probably come along with the exact numbers that you need, but what I have said will hopefully help you to understand why it should be so.

[surfblue]

All sounds very complicated, I would imagine wheel bearing life would be compromised too?

[minibuck]

If I got in touch with a specialist would they know all about the complicated issues?Would my steels be ideal for banding?  image.jpg   48.94K   5 downloads