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[KernowCooper]

Just browsing ebay and came upon a Austin Rover Dealer Workshop Manual, described as near perfect condition, its from Mk4 1976 to 1992 Carb Models. The details contained far exceed a haynes manual with full repairs details of every component including the Manual/Automatic Gearboxs

 

Worth having for the read alone let alone the reference ability.

 

It arrived today and it must have been stored and never used there is not a mark on/in it.

Edited by KernowCooper, 08 March 2014 - 11:09 PM.

[Wise Old Elf]

What does the cover look like?

[KernowCooper]

Along the lines of all the AR Documents, picture below mate

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[Ethel]

Do we still have links to some pdf versions (I haven't seen that one amongst them)?

 

It's debatable if copyright still applies to the earlier, in house & not for profit, technical publications.

[KernowCooper]

Heck of a good one for the MK4s on

[Dan]

They aren't unusual at all, you could buy them from the parts desk at dealers and Mini Spares used to stock them. They were a bit more than a Haynes though. My modern one was about £25.00 at a time when a Haynes would have been about £16.00. I've got a couple of different older ones too, although none of them are entirely pristine now! The latest I have is an AKM6353 which is I think the last carb version. And that's odd because I got it around '99 and there is nothing about injection in it at all.

[Wise Old Elf]

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item486299bd39

 

 

This guy sells scanned copies on CD for £2.65

[tiger99]

Be aware that copyright most certainly does apply to all these manuals, and will do so until 70 years from the end of the year in which they were issued. I understand that BMW are the owners of the copyright, and have a history of taking people to court. However, it is possible that it is not BMW that owns them, but rest assured, someone does!

 

There was an effort by the Libervative (or maybe Consiberal?) government to do something about copyright on "orphaned works", but I don't think that the law has yet been changed. It does need to be, for reasons such as this, where people that NEED information can't get it because the original manual is out of print, and get sued by the copyright owner when, as a last resort, they are forced to make an illegal copy.

 

I am not admitting to owning any dodgy material, for obvious reasons, but suffice it to say that I have had similar problems with the manual for my daily driver, a Ford S-Max.

 

So, if you see a real, genuine workshop manual at an affordable price, grab it, and look after it well. Making copies of a few pages to take into the garage, to allow the original to be kept clean, is fully legal in the UK. I suspect that making one scanned copy of the whole manual for BACKUP purposes is also legal, within UK and EU law, however selling manuals on CD is a SERIOUS CRIMINAL OFFENCE in the UK, and can result in a few years holiday in one of Her Majesty's less salubrious establishments. (Ebay always removes such stuff and bans the seller, once someone notifies them.) Possessing a copy, or giving one away free to a friend, is only an offence under civil copyright law in the UK, for which you can expect damages of about 4 times the value of the illegally copied material (say £100) plus the, probably much larger court costs, so you could be out of pocket by over £1000 quite easily.

 

If you live in the US take great care. Some poor woman was done for several millions by a stupidly incompetent judge and jury for a couple of illegal music downloads valued at maybe $25 total. That is done under civil law, and if you get into such a case it is almost certain that you will be bankrupted by the legal costs.