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[lewBlew]

Morning

 

I used the trick of leaving the wheel on and on the floor for undoing the hub nut and did this without a problem. Is it possible to do this for the reverse procedure? I'm worried about the hut rotating. Just want to make sure all is kept tight and so on (and yes I do have the magic flat washer for use before the conical one!).

[petey81]

Yes the best way and safest

[A-Cell]

Get it as tight as you can using washer before putting weight on. An assistant on the brake.

[megamini_jb]

Is the flat washer really that important? My last 2 minis I've never used it and they've been fine, even my mate dad who owns a well established garage that has minis in a fair bit has never done it. Neither has my dad come to think of it and we've lost count how many minis he's had

Edited by megamini_jb, 03 March 2014 - 12:19 PM.

[A-Cell]

No not really, I only used one once, done loads without. But the OP has procured one, so he might as well use it!

[megamini_jb]

Yeah just wondered

[lewBlew]

Yes I have got one, thought I'd do it by the book.

 

So would this work?

 

Put magic washer on

Put hub nut on

Tighten hub nut as much as poss with assistant on brake. Do I need to get it to torque?

Take hub nut off

Swap magic washer with conical one. Being careful not to disturb anything else

Put hub nut on again

Put wheel on and wheel nuts finger tight

Lower wheel to touch ground

Tighten hub nut to torque and then line up with split pin hole using humungous torque wrench

 

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[A-Cell]

Yep
No need to get it to torque with magic washer, just very tight!
Check bearing rotates nicely.
Put wheel on, 2 nuts enough, tighten them
On ground, then as you say.
As you assemble Make sure split pin hole is not in line with studs as it will be more difficult to get the split pin in, not impossible. It's just easier that way.

[A-Cell]

Haynes manual introduces flat washer technique, it's not in the Leyland manual!

[lewBlew]

Yep
No need to get it to torque with magic washer, just very tight!
Check bearing rotates nicely.
Put wheel on, 2 nuts enough, tighten them
On ground, then as you say.
As you assemble Make sure split pin hole is not in line with studs as it will be more difficult to get the split pin in, not impossible. It's just easier that way.

 

 

Thanks. So actually it would make sense to:

 

Put magic washer on

Put hub nut on

Tighten hub nut tight

Put wheel on and 2 wheel nuts

Lower to ground

Take hub nut off

Swap magic washer with conical one. Being careful not to disturb anything else

Put hub nut on again

Tighten hub nut to torque and then line up with split pin hole using humungous and expensive wrench.

 

Can I enquire as to the point of the magic washer, in a nutshell? Is it something to do with packing in the bearings all nice and lined up?

[ado15]

The split conical washer can sometimes grip the CV shaft before being fully 'home'. I would guess if you are always using an impact gun to spin the hub nut on, the flat washer would not be needed. The 'on-off-on' effect of the gun would allow the taper washer to shuffle fully home.

[megamini_jb]

I always use impact wrench to take the nut off and get it started when going back on

[A-Cell]

As ADO15 says, the split taper washer might inhibit the shaft pulling the bearings tightly into place. I presume It is more certain that the bearings will seat correctly using a flat washer. I dont use an impact gun, just hand tools. Turning the disc whilst initially tightening helps bearings to seat better.

[megamini_jb]

I can't believe how tight my hub nuts were. My dad is a big bloke and it still wasn't budging with him on a scaffold pole lol. Took 2 seconds with the impact wrench

[lewBlew]

I can't believe how tight my hub nuts were. My dad is a big bloke and it still wasn't budging with him on a scaffold pole lol. Took 2 seconds with the impact wrench

 

I struggled with a 24" breaker bar, added a 3 ft metal scaffolding pole I found lying around in the garage and it came off just like that.

 

It's getting it back on that tight I'm worried about.