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[MUD&ROX]

if you go with a b series this should help ya....

 B16A VTEC Found in:
o 1989-1993 JDM Honda Integra RSi/XSi (DA6/DA8) o 1989-1991 JDM Honda CRX SiR (EF8)
o 1989-1991 JDM Honda Civic SiR/SiRII (EF9)

•   Displacement: 1595 cm3

•   Compression: 10.2:1

•   Rod/stroke ratio: 1.74

•   Power: 158 hp @ 7600 rpm & 112 ft·lbf @ 7000 rpm

•   Transmission: S1/J1/Y1/A1/YS1

o 1992-1995 JDM Honda Civic SiR/SiRII (EG6/EG9)

•   Displacement: 1595 cm3

•   Compression: 10.4:1

•   Power: 168 hp @ 7800 rpm & 116 ft·lbf @ 7300 rpm

•   Transmission: S4C

o 1992-1995 EDM Honda Civic VTi

•   Displacement: 1595 cm3

•   Compression: 10.4:1

•   Power: 158 hp @ 7600 rpm & 116 ft·lbf @ 7300 rpm

o 1992-1996 JDM Honda CR-X del Sol SiR

•   Displacement: 1595 cm3

•   Compression: 10.4:1

•   Power: 158 hp - 170 hp & 111 ft·lbf - 116 ft·lbf

 B16A1 VTEC Found in:
o 1989-1991 EUDM Honda CRX 1.6i/VTi (EE8/ED) o 1990-1991 EUDM Honda Civic 1.6iVT (EE9)

•   Displacement: 1595 cm3

•   Compression: 10.2:1

•   Power: 150 hp (112 kW) @ 7600 rpm & 111 ft·lbf (151 N·m) @ 7000 rpm

 B16A2 VTEC Found in:
o 1992-2000 Honda Civic EDM VTi (EG & EK)

•   Displacement: 1595 cm3

•   Compression: 10.2:1

•   Power: 160 hp @ 7600 rpm & 113 ft·lbf (153 N·m) @ 7300 rpm

•   Transmission: Y21

o 1999-2000 Honda Civic Si (EM1)

•   Displacement: 1595 cm3

•   Compression: 10.2:1

•   Power: 160 hp (118 kW) @ 7600 rpm & 111 ft·lbf (151 N·m) @ 7000 rpm

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 Transmission: Y21 S4C
o 1996-1997 Honda Del Sol VTEC (EG)

•   Displacement: 1595 cm3

•   Compression: 10.4:1

•   Power: 160 hp (119 kW) @ 7800 rpm & 111 ft·lbf (152 N·m) @ 7000 rpm

•   Transmission: Y21

 B16A3 VTEC Found in:
o 1994-1995 Honda Del Sol VTEC (EG)

•   Displacement: 1595 cm3

•   Compression: 10.4:1

•   Power: 160 hp (119 kW) @ 7800 rpm & 111 ft·lbf (152 N·m) @ 7000 rpm

•   Transmission: Y21

•   Redline: 8200 rpm

 B16A6 VTEC Found in:
o 1996-2000 Honda Civic - South Africa VTEC (EK)

•   Displacement: 1595 cm3

•   Compression: 10.2:1

•   Power: 160 hp (118 kW) @ 7800 rpm & 160 N·m @ 7400 rpm

•   Transmission: Y21

 B16B VTEC Found in:
o 1997-2000 Civic Type-R[EK9]

•   Displacement: 1595 cm3

•   Compression: 10.8:1

•   Power: 185 hp (137 kW) @ 8200 rpm & 118 ft·lbf (160 N·m) @ 7500 rpm

•   Transmission: S4C With LSD

 B17A1 VTEC Found in:
o 1992-1999 Integra GS-R (DB2)

•   Displacement: 1608 cm3

•   Compression: 9.6:1

•   Power: 160 hp @ 9500 rpm & 197 ft·lbf (159 N·m) @ 2200 rpm

•   Transmission: cable~ XS1

 B18A1 Found in:
o 1990-1993 Integra RS/LS/GS (DA)

•   Displacement: 1834 cm3

•   Compression: 9.2:1

•   Bore: 81 mm

•   Stroke: 89 mm

•   Power:

  •   1990-1991: 130 hp (97 kW) @ 6000 rpm & 121 ft·lbf (164 N·m) @ 5000 rpm

  •   1992-1994: 140 hp (104 kW) @ 6300 rpm & 127 ft·lbf (173 N·m) @ 5200 rpm

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 Transmission: YS1

 B18B1 Found in:
o 1994-2001 Acura Integra "RS/LS/GS" (DC4/DB7)

•   Displacement: 1834 cc

•   Compression: 9.2:1

•   Bore: 81 mm

•   Stroke: 89 mm

•   Power:

 142 hp @ 6300 rpm & 127 ft·lbf @ 5200 rpm

 Transmission: S88

•   B18C VTEC Found in:

•   JDM Spec Honda Integra ITR

•   Power: 200ps (200 hp) @ 7800 rpm

•   134 ft·lbf @ 6200 rpm

•   Transmission Type: 5-speed standard

•   Displacement: 1797 cm3

•   Compression: 11.1:1 (JDM) - The USDM Integra Type-R 10.6:1

•   Transmission: Y80

•   B18C1 VTEC Found in:

o 1994-2001 Integra GS-R (DC2 & DB8)
o Displacement: 1797 cm3
o Compression: 10.0:1
o Power: 170hp @ 7600 rpm 128 ft·lbf @ 6200 rpm o Transmission: S80

 B18C3 VTEC Found in:
o 1995-1998 Acura Integra Type R o Power: 195hp

 B18C4 VTEC Found in:
o 1996-2000 UK Civic 1.8i VTi 5-door Hatch
o 1996-2000 UK Civic Aerodeck 1.8i VTi 5-door Wagon
o 1998-1999 EU Civic Aerodeck 1.8i VTi 5-door Wagon
o 1998-1999 EU Civic 1.8i VTi 5-door Hatch
o Displacement: 1797 cm3
o Compression: 10.0:1
o Power: 169 hp (124 kW) @ 8000 rpm & 129 ft·lbf (174 N·m) @ 7500 rpm o Transmission: S9B

 B18C5 VTEC Found in:
o 1997-2001 Integra Type-R
o Displacement: 1797 cm3
o Compression: 11.0:1
o Power: 192 hp @ 8000 rpm & 130 ft·lbf (176 N·m) @ 7500 rpm o Transmission: S80

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 B18C6 VTEC Found in:
o 1998-2001 Honda Integra UK and Euro Spec Type R o Power: 190 ps (147 kW), 187 Nm

 B18C7 VTEC Found in:
o 1996- Honda Integra Type R (Australia) o Power: 200 hp (140 kW), 136 ft·lbf

[gavminivtec]

thanks for all the replies ! has been really helpful,

as far as im aware I don't really have a budget It will be a long slow build.. so definitely thinking about the b16 or b18..

maybe a silly question but is there enough power in the b16 for a mini as I want it for track use or would it be better to pay the extra and go for the b18

[KaneH]

Is there ever enough power.. haha! But seriously, you can draw quite good power out of the b16 as KMP has shown in the figures before. 190hp in a stripped out track car sub 700kg equates to roughly as 270hp/tonne, if my maths is correct, which will go like sh*t off a shovel! Bear in mind though the cost involved to get you there.

 

It really depends on how far you are wanting to take your car. Start off with a b16 and tune it with some bolt on mods and achieve similar figures to KMP but what happens if you feel you want more? Strip the b16 down and have work done, maybe bigger valves, stroker kit etc etc its going to cost a lot of money! Or start with a b18 and have more power out of the box with the potential for higher output with similar mods. You can pick up a civic/aerodeck with a b18c4 engine for less than a grand and thats road worthy, find one sorn one and you'll probably half that price. Then all you'll need is to strip it, rebuild the engine (which I'd do anyway to save you having to pull it all out again a few months down the line) and weigh the rest of the car in to try offset your costs.

 

I would say though there is a point that you'll reach in tuning this sort of build that will exceed the 'usable' power. Its all well and good saying to your mates in the pub that you have a 300hp vtec mini but when you see small hatchbacks pull away from you on track because you can't put the power down I'm sure you will be slightly peeved. Again I would say go have a read of some of the guys builds on here as well as some over on the 16vminiclub forum, you'll get an idea of how their builds have gone and what is actually 'enough' power in a mini.

[KMP]

My mini is in the Honda build section under the same forum name as here if you were interested in seeing my build, most people on there do them differently. My mini weighs 700kgs inc. driver, I have a full roll cage in it too . I have fibreglass doors, boot, whole 1 piece flip front - front end and roof, its stripped out with 2 buckets and polycarbonate windows so it's quite.....light lol. There is a 400bhp+ 2.4l evo engined mini on there that's 4wd and runs on methanol that weighs about 500-600kgs!!! It has the 4wd evo running gear though so it gets the power down well!

Thanks
Kris

[giacomo]

b16's are fun. my mates got a civic coupe with a b16 with manifold and air filter ect, minimal mods and it flys!

[Shep76S]

thanks mate have just messaged him, I think its in sittingbourne which is just down the road as well!

Close, it's in Sheerness on the Isle of Sheppey.

[gavminivtec]

is there much difference in the conversion between the 16 and 18?

 

yes about putting the power down I was thinking off a diff but have seen some of the engines come with the lsd as standard is this correct? but knowing my luck will not be in the b18 haha

 

will check through the thread now :) 

[KaneH]

There isn't any real difference between the two.

 

As far as I'm away both the b16 and b18 type r engines came with an lsd and so does the b18c4/5/6/7.