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#1 rspminijack

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 06:14 PM

hi all, I'm new here but have been lurking for a bit. i have a 1991 rsp mini cooper that has the air box with the extension fitted (one that bolts onto the rocker cover). I've heard that these are quite restrictive and lots of people drill holes in there air boxes. 

Would i be able to do the same on mine? i was also thinking that they are quite rare now and it might be a shame to drill holes in it.

i dont want to remove it as i really like the look of it (i have put a k+n element in it). i though if i drilled holes along the front underside of the extension then in the usual places on the actual air box?

 

what do u all think? (ps sorry if this is in the wrong section, I'm new  :unsure: )



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Posted 08 January 2014 - 06:40 PM

Do you mean one like this? http://www.ebay.co.u...=p2047675.l2557

 

If so, I have got one of those and was thinking the same as you. 

 

I would be interested in any replies.



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Posted 08 January 2014 - 06:46 PM

Do you mean one like this? http://www.ebay.co.u...=p2047675.l2557

 

If so, I have got one of those and was thinking the same as you. 

 

I would be interested in any replies.

 

 

This one is not a RSP airbox. It is a Mainstream one as it has the Cooper logo.

The RSP ones are very rare now so I would advise against drilling holes in it. Better to keep it on a shelf or sell it and buy a Mainstream one to drill.

I gave a Mainstream one away recently as I bought two for £2.

 

Are you registered with the RSP Register Jack?

 

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 06:54 PM

 

Do you mean one like this? http://www.ebay.co.u...=p2047675.l2557

 

If so, I have got one of those and was thinking the same as you. 

 

I would be interested in any replies.

 

 

This one is not a RSP airbox. It is a Mainstream one as it has the Cooper logo.

The RSP ones are very rare now so I would advise against drilling holes in it. Better to keep it on a shelf or sell it and buy a Mainstream one to drill.

I gave a Mainstream one away recently as I bought two for £2.

 

Are you registered with the RSP Register Jack?

 

Jason

 

Well the one I have must be the mainstream one then, I didn't realise there was a difference.

 

Do you think I should drill a mainstream one? Where would you drill it?

 

(Sorry to hijack your thread Jack, but this info might be useful to you?)



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Posted 08 January 2014 - 07:18 PM

Mmmm well drilling the snorkel would have no effect as the hole from the snorkel to the main filter housing would be the same size.

Drilling holes around the outside of the housing (the dirty side of the filter) would give you more air around the filter. But none of this answers the question. The question you need to ask is does the engine need more air? The answer is maybe but this would be at the top of the rev range when the engine is drawing in max air. The other question is is having the snorkel beneficial? The snorkel inlet is positioned to draw cold air into the inlet as cold air is denser (more oxygen). If you drill holes in the housing you are drawing hot air from above the exhaust manifold and hot engine so you are drawing less dense hot air.  

 

You would be better to compare power/torque graphs of standard filters with cone filters.

 

http://www.calverst....filter_test.htm

 

 

Have a read of this article. Their conclusion is:

 

Conclusion

 

That famous phrase 'all that glitters isn't gold' is perfectly illustrated here. Something that looks and sounds like it should produce optimum results doesn't. Without a doubt, the optimum set-up on a small-bore engine is the standard plastic filter case with half-a-dozen three-quarter-inch holes drilled in it and using a K&N element.

 

A bit of good news for those 'noise' junkies - those extra holes give the induction sound of a Weber side-draught when under load, but are as quiet as a mouse when on part throttle. The noise IS addictive though!

 

I would also state here that this is not necessarily the case with the large bore engine units. I have had reports of gains of up to 6bhp when using a pancake (not cone) type K&N over the standard filter case set-up from a reliable source. Unfortunately I do not know if that is the standard filter case with standard filter, or with K&N element and other suitable mods. That'll be another test then…


Edited by Wise Old Elf, 08 January 2014 - 07:24 PM.


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Posted 08 January 2014 - 08:14 PM

Whilst the noise is addictive I would add that it van quickly become tiresome - and 60 mph + in a Mini needs a fair bit of throttle. I drilled my standard air box and I would probably swap back to a un- modified.




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