Stage One Kit Fitted
Posted 01 January 2014 - 09:09 AM
Hello,
in first time, sorry for mine English - I am from Czech rep. :). I buy in last day MINI 1000 1983 HLE in original condition. Today I try start motor (last week work in former owner) and nothing. The car shines red and orange light and If I try start motor make only clicks.
Can you pleas help me where is problem?
Thank you so much for your reply.
Jakub from Czech Rep.
Up Into Fourth
Posted 01 January 2014 - 11:07 AM
Probably a flat battery. Either try charging it up or use jump leads.
One Carb Or Two?
Posted 01 January 2014 - 11:51 AM
The clicking sound is most likely your starter solenoid.
As said above it is probably clicking because the battery is flat. Try jumping starting the car or charging the battery.
If this fails you can try bump starting the car. If this works but the starter motor still clicks then it could be a sticky solenoid. Try turning the key and hitting the solenoid to free it.
Stage One Kit Fitted
Posted 01 January 2014 - 01:08 PM
Thank you for reply ;). Now I try test charging battery starter make litle turn - but is no good. Battery is propably very low or dead 
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Super Mini Mad
Posted 01 January 2014 - 01:57 PM
put in gear rock the car backwards and forwards a couple times then jump start it 
Stage One Kit Fitted
Posted 01 January 2014 - 02:24 PM
F1L8EY:
I'm sorry, but I do not understand. You mean, select a gear 1-4 and manuall move with car?
Thank you :)
Stage One Kit Fitted
Posted 01 January 2014 - 06:45 PM
Now I move with car - forward and backward and for 80% battery is dead. Starter move very slow..
Crazy About Mini's
Posted 01 January 2014 - 07:02 PM
Maybe you can try a battery from another car?
grtz!
Super Mini Mad
Posted 01 January 2014 - 07:23 PM
Yes put into 2nd rock car back and forth... put in to reverse rock back and forth... then this might help free the starter.
Stage One Kit Fitted
Posted 01 January 2014 - 07:40 PM
Mini Mad:
Yes this I make.. ;)
F1L8EY:
Next day I make second "experiment"
Stage One Kit Fitted
Posted 02 January 2014 - 02:58 PM
Today I make test with full battery. Starter turn very slow (I hear it rubbing).
I have this:
And I must buy this ? - http://www.minisport...pe-1959-84.html
Thank you
Moved Into The Garage
Posted 02 January 2014 - 04:54 PM
Before buying new, try a few additional tests and perhaps refurbish the starter motor.
Remove the starter motor from the car. (Do not forget to disconnect the battery cable in the boot first).
Clean the mounting surface for the starter motor both on the engine and the flange of the motor itself. Remove all corrosion and paint from the mounting surfaces.
Test the motor out of the car using jumper cables directly to your new battery.
Connect the battery (-) terminal to the starter motor flange using one jumper cable wire.
Connect the battery (+) terminal to the remaining jumper cable wire.
Step on the motor to hold it to the ground.
TAP (then hold) the free end of the (+) jumper cable lead against the threaded terminal on the motor.
(There will be sparks and the motor will try and move out from under your foot).
The motor should spin freely and quickly if it is in good order. If the motor is slow and jerky, you may want to try partial disassembly, cleaning and re-oiling the motor bushings. If you disassemble the motor to clean and lubricate it, also check the condition of the copper commutator and the brushes. Clean them as necessary. The copper commutator can be lightly sanded with sandpaper to remove oxidation and contamination. Spray contact cleaner (or even brake cleaner) can be used to flush grease and carbon dust from the brushes.
Stage One Kit Fitted
Posted 02 January 2014 - 05:19 PM
dklawson:
Thank you so much for your great reply..! :) In this week I make it.. ;)
Stage One Kit Fitted
Posted 03 January 2014 - 03:14 PM
Hello,
today I clean starter, and still turn very slow:
Today I make order for new brush - this in starter dont look good.
Moved Into The Garage
Posted 03 January 2014 - 07:06 PM
I watched the video without sound. If that is your starter, you are correct that it is running way too slow. When you touch the cable to the threaded terminal the motor should practically leap off the table from rapid acceleration.
It has been a couple of years since I have opened a starter motor. If I am looking correctly at your photograph, there are brushes missing from the motor end plate. There should be two brushes connected to the coils in the cylindrical housing and two connected to the threaded stud on the end plate for the motor. Perhaps the brushes are missing because they wore away.
While you are waiting on the brushes, take the opportunity to clean all the dust and debris out of the motor. Clean the copper commutator on the end of the armateur. Oil the bronze bushing in the motor end plate (30W oil... allow it to soak in, then apply more oil). The front of the motor is almost unserviceable unless you remove the Bendix unit (the part with the gear and spring). Leave that alone BUT try to apply oil to where the shaft passes through the front end plate.
Also, use spray brake cleaner to wash the Bendix unit. Spray the cleaner on, twist the parts by hand, then spray again with the cleaner. Repeat this many times to remove all the dirt and debris. Do NOT oil the Bendix when you are done. If you want to lubricate it, find a hobby store that sells powdered graphite. Apply only powdered graphite or Moly-Disulfide powder to the Bendix as a lubricant.
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