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[PaulColeman]

I've got some slop in the front wheel and I can't work out where it's coming from. I've replaced the wheel bearings and balljoints but haven't replaced the CV joints. If I grab the wheel at 12 and 6 o'clock I can rock it back and forth. Looking at the side of it I can see the CV gaitor moving but I can't see the ball joints moving. There is some play in the driveshaft but it's the same on both sides and the other wheel doesn't have any play in it. I'm thinking wheel bearing but it's new and so far hasn't done any mileage? It was all torqued up according to the manual.

 

Confused of Bedford.

[sonikk4]

Its possible the bearing is not seated correctly. I would be taking it apart again to see what's going on. Is the bearing a Timken one or a cheap aftermarket type??

[PaulColeman]

Its possible the bearing is not seated correctly. I would be taking it apart again to see what's going on. Is the bearing a Timken one or a cheap aftermarket type??

I bought it from Mini Spares and I think it's an after-market one, not a Timken.

 

Cheers, Paul.

[sonikk4]

Have a search through here or via google there have been plenty of threads with regards to front bearing play and the difference between Timken and pattern bearings.Minispares bearings should be fine as Simon is keeping on top of them.

[PaulColeman]

Okay, will do.

 

Cheers, Paul.

[Archived2]

Dsn classics sell a fair set of bearings for good money that haven't given me any problems. They also offer advice on fitting bearings. (not that you have done anything wrongs though.)

They advise a fitting technique to limit and potential seating issues. worth a look?

[A-Cell]

Another thing to check is the CV joint shaft that the bearing inner fits over. If this is badly worn then there can still be play in the wheel.

[PaulColeman]

I've taken the hub off and reshimmed the balljoints but it has made no difference (the top one was very sloppy). Can the CV joint cause this problem or is it only the wheel bearing and/or bearing seating?

 

The bearing itself looks okay and the two halves are pushed tightly together with no gap between them. I fitted the type with a built in spacer.

 

Thanks, Paul.

Edited by PaulColeman, 02 November 2013 - 07:24 PM.

[mini13]

sometimes the CV and drive flange can wear so they no longer clamp up on the wheel bearing properly, pull the drive flange off and check for wear just behind the spline on the CV and on the back of the drive flange where it meets the bearing.

[M J W J]

With you suspension all together grab the wheel at 12 and 6 and try and move it. Then have someone put their foot on the brake and see if you can move it the same amount. If not then it suggests that its a suspension joint at fault and not the wheel bearing. If it cures it then its a wheel bearing not sitting properly.

 

Also check your lower suspension arm bushes. It might not be the hub moving in relation to the lower arm but the lower arm moving in relation to the sub frame.

[PaulColeman]

The lower suspension arm bushes are new poly ones (o miles so far). I can't use the brakes at the moment as I've just fitted a new master cylinder and haven't bled them yet.

 

For the sake of the cost I think I'm going to replace the wheel bearing and see if that cures it.

[Cooperman]

Do you have any play when you hold the wheel at 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock? If not, then it is a ball joint issue. If you do then it is wheel bearing related.

[PaulColeman]

It's difficult to tell if there's any sideways movement as the steering rack isn't connected at the moment...

[ado15]

The later (84 on) cars have a habit of the bearing races shuffling round. This wears the CV shaft and drive flange as already pointed out, but also the swivel hub itself. The width of the 'spacer' in this is critical and it wears narrower when the bearing outer races spin. You will never get rid of play if this has happened. Replacement of the swivel hub is the only answer in this instance.

 

Incorrect assembly of the bearings at some point in the life of the car can cause this problem. We have instructions on our web site here:

http://www.dsnclassi...ng-disc-brakes/

[PaulColeman]

New wheel bearing cured the 12 and 6 o'clock play. A new steering rack cured the 9 and 3 o'clock play. Strange as the wheel bearing was new and had done about 1 mile?

 

Paul.