199 replies to this topic

[Nino]

Nice work and project.

 

Tachnically a MK4 but lets not split hairs.

 Hi mk3 Cooper S

 

Why do you think its a mk 4 ? :)

 

cheers, Nino

[mk3 Cooper S]

 

Nice work and project.

 

Tachnically a MK4 but lets not split hairs.

 Hi mk3 Cooper S

 

Why do you think its a mk 4 ? :)

 

cheers, Nino

 

Rod change floor and no hole in the rear seat back.

[domdee]

 

 

Nice work and project.

 

Tachnically a MK4 but lets not split hairs.

 Hi mk3 Cooper S

 

Why do you think its a mk 4 ? :)

 

cheers, Nino

 

Rod change floor and no hole in the rear seat back.

 

look at the gutters - drip rail and drainage slits, dash panel switches.

my '74 mk3 had no hole in the seat back and the same gear stick hole

Edited by domdee, 03 February 2014 - 05:03 PM.

[mk3 Cooper S]

 

 

 

Nice work and project.

 

Tachnically a MK4 but lets not split hairs.

 Hi mk3 Cooper S

 

Why do you think its a mk 4 ? :)

 

cheers, Nino

 

Rod change floor and no hole in the rear seat back.

 

look at the gutters - drip rail and drainage slits, dash panel switches.

my '74 mk3 had no hole in the seat back and the same gear stick hole

 

It's not all about the driprails

 

A true mk3 has all of the following:

 

Remote floor

Hole in rear of seat

Ashtrays in companion bins

Driprails

Smaller holes in the triangulations of the front inner wing strengthener.

 

It is a bit unclear as some of the features phased out with no method.

These could be termed as a MK3 .5 or a Mk4 - take your pick?

 

My 76 car still has driprails by the way

Edited by mk3 Cooper S, 03 February 2014 - 05:20 PM.

[Nino]

 

 

Nice work and project.

 

Tachnically a MK4 but lets not split hairs.

 Hi mk3 Cooper S

 

Why do you think its a mk 4 ? :)

 

cheers, Nino

 

Rod change floor and no hole in the rear seat back.

 

I am pretty sure that its a mk3. it has solid front subframe mounts. no rubber bushes, and twin tower bolts.

 

and from 1976 and up, it had rubber bushes and single tower bolts. and there fore mk 4 ? :)

[mk3 Cooper S]

 

 

 

Nice work and project.

 

Tachnically a MK4 but lets not split hairs.

 Hi mk3 Cooper S

 

Why do you think its a mk 4 ? :)

 

cheers, Nino

 

Rod change floor and no hole in the rear seat back.

 

I am pretty sure that its a mk3. it has solid front subframe mounts. no rubber bushes, and twin tower bolts.

 

and from 1976 and up, it had rubber bushes and single tower bolts. and there fore mk 4 ? :)

 

Please photo the features detailed above.

Edited by mk3 Cooper S, 03 February 2014 - 05:20 PM.

[Nino]

 

 

 

 

Nice work and project.

 

Tachnically a MK4 but lets not split hairs.

 Hi mk3 Cooper S

 

Why do you think its a mk 4 ? :)

 

cheers, Nino

 

Rod change floor and no hole in the rear seat back.

 

look at the gutters - drip rail and drainage slits, dash panel switches.

my '74 mk3 had no hole in the seat back and the same gear stick hole

 

It's not all about the driprails

 

A true mk3 has all of the following:

 

Remote floor

Hole in rear of seat

Ashtrays in companion bins

Driprails

Smaller holes in the triangulations of the front inner wing strengthener.

 

It is a bit unclear as some of the features phased out with no method.

These could be termed as a MK3 .5 or a Mk4 - take your pick?

 

My 76 car still has driprails by the way

 

okay. :) but I'm danish , so i don't fully know what some of them are ? 

 

 

Remote floor - don't know what this is ? 

Hole in rear of seat - No it does not have a hole, thought only mk 1 and 2 had that ? :)

Ashtrays in companion bins - don't know what this is ? 

Driprails - Yes 

[domdee]

Thought mk1 and 2s had ash trays in the bins and hole in seat back. Perhaps some mk3s had the phased out mk2 parts too

Edited by domdee, 03 February 2014 - 09:04 PM.

[Sleeping Park Lane]

I think British Leyland can be held responsible for a lot of the confusion. I believe they used up whatever parts they had so some cars are what we might consider to be "pure" mk3: rotodip hole in rear seat back, gutter drip rails, round centre tunnel from front to rear with cast remote gear change housing, ashtrays in rear bins next to the back seat, shallow "dent" in engine bay cross member, etc. these tend to be 1971/72 cars at the latest in the UK at least.

But, there are cars that have some of these parts and some parts that many think are mk4, such as the rod gear change, but they still have things such as the twin bolt front subframe and roof gutter drip rails. My 72 had all the bits you'd expect on a "pure" mk3 but my 73 had rod change instead of remote gearbox change and the 73 had no rotodip hole in the rear seat back. To me they're both mk3. The mk4 was, to my way of thinking, when the single bolt came in for each tower of the front subframe.

Nino, yours looks like my 1973 Mini and, to me, it's a mk3 (or maybe mk3.5 if we're really being fussy )

Whatever it is, you're doing a great job restoring it - good luck to you.
Steve

[mk3 Cooper S]

Whatever it is, you're doing a great job restoring it - good luck to you.
 

Agreed,

 

Keep up the good work.

[Nino]

I think British Leyland can be held responsible for a lot of the confusion. I believe they used up whatever parts they had so some cars are what we might consider to be "pure" mk3: rotodip hole in rear seat back, gutter drip rails, round centre tunnel from front to rear with cast remote gear change housing, ashtrays in rear bins next to the back seat, shallow "dent" in engine bay cross member, etc. these tend to be 1971/72 cars at the latest in the UK at least.

But, there are cars that have some of these parts and some parts that many think are mk4, such as the rod gear change, but they still have things such as the twin bolt front subframe and roof gutter drip rails. My 72 had all the bits you'd expect on a "pure" mk3 but my 73 had rod change instead of remote gearbox change and the 73 had no rotodip hole in the rear seat back. To me they're both mk3. The mk4 was, to my way of thinking, when the single bolt came in for each tower of the front subframe.

Nino, yours looks like my 1973 Mini and, to me, it's a mk3 (or maybe mk3.5 if we're really being fussy )

Whatever it is, you're doing a great job restoring it - good luck to you.
Steve

Thank you for all that explaining. ! :)

- but now that you mention it, i also once heard that they phased out "left over" parts, for less money loss. :) but again, only something i got told once.

 

 

Thanks, i am really glad that my work is up to a great standard . ! ! i really appreciate it 

 

and now its nothing to get upset about, It just nice to know the details about the "pure" mk3 :)

 

Cheers nino

 

ps- small update tomorrow with some rain gutter repair :) 

[hoody99]

Nice project bud will have an in-depth look later on

[Nino]

Thank you very much Hoody99 :)

[Nino]

New update ! 

 

link with many detail'd pics. 

http://www.bilgaller...n_mini___part_2

 

 

And older pics on this link.

http://www.bilgaller...n_mini___part_1

 

 

[Nino]

 

And then this happened... 

 

And got my seat belts i won on ebay . two sets

 

And got a huge box yesterday ! :)

 

I cut the new inner wing in halfs, because of the MK5 (?) shapes. :)

 

Thats it for now :) - hope you enjoy 

 

- Nino