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#1 Grkify

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 07:01 PM

Been looking about and trying to find out what the service interval should Roughly be for a mini looking into getting one as always wanted one was going to buy a complete wreck but now looking at a rolling restore probably a 1275 issue being is that I do a lot of miles well to me it seems like a lot almost 400 a week. to be honest dont want to be changing oil and the like to frequently. 

 

Sorry if it seems stupid just dont want to buy one to find It to impractical to use as my daily driver. space speed and comfort arnt an issue as tons of little journeys  and after searching the internet seen places recommending  every 2500 miles to ever  5000. I understand that being an older car it requires more care. Sorry I cant be more specific on the car but looking at a 1275 probably 70s or 80s 



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Posted 16 July 2013 - 07:16 PM

I know there are quite a few people out there still, but personally after having been into Minis for quite a few years now, I would never want one as a daily driver. They may be cheap to insure in the UK, cheap to buy and tax exempt depending on how old they are, but it is an old design and as such will give you trouble that a modern car wouldn't.

 

Changing oil every 5000 km, bits failing, rust needing repairs etc, it all adds up. It's a cheap oldtimer to own, but as a daily driver, there are arguably more economical options.



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Posted 16 July 2013 - 07:21 PM

I know there are quite a few people out there still, but personally after having been into Minis for quite a few years now, I would never want one as a daily driver. They may be cheap to insure in the UK, cheap to buy and tax exempt depending on how old they are, but it is an old design and as such will give you trouble that a modern car wouldn't.

 

Changing oil every 5000 km, bits failing, rust needing repairs etc, it all adds up. It's a cheap oldtimer to own, but as a daily driver, there are arguably more economical options.

While this is true, there is no modern car that will be as fun to drive as a Mini that costs the same or less, and surely that's one of the only reason we all own them.


Edited by HarrysMini, 16 July 2013 - 07:25 PM.


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Posted 16 July 2013 - 07:36 PM

Absolutely, but even though it's fun, the drawbacks outweigh the fun factor for use as a daily driver. For me, at least, although my Mini is my only car. But we have short distances here (Bike) or excellent public transportation.



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Posted 16 July 2013 - 08:18 PM

I would personally think a resto project would be a horrible start fora daily driver, with all the tweaks a restored car needs once back on the road to get it right , you would be in the garage all the time fixing all the little thing and the stuff that comes loose.

 

I work at a classic car garage and I favor good original lower milage cars over restored cars. People think restored = prefect, but its far from it.

 

with  3000 miles oil change your going to get about 6 to 8 weeks between oil changes, if you do it yourself once you know what your doing your talking 20/30 quid oil and filter and 15 to 30 mins time.



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Posted 16 July 2013 - 10:18 PM

What krusher said is very true, try to get an original untouched SPI-MPI minis or even a mainstream cooper for a daily driver, but beware these later cars tend to rust MUCH more than older minis. 



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Posted 16 July 2013 - 10:24 PM

Don't take a Mini more than 3000 miles between oil & filter change and grease all the suspension points at the same time.
Adjust the rear brakes every 3000 miles as well, as they are not self-adjusting.
Fill carb dashpot with oil at every service.

Really, in modern traffic, a Mini is far from an ideal car, fun though it might be. Really most classic cars, not only the Mini, are far from ideal as daily drivers, one exception possibly being the MGB GT, although even that will require a lot of work to keep it going well.

I drove a 1.25 litre Fiesta petrol last week. Value about £4000, i.e. the same as a useable Mini, and its performance was astounding. It was so comfortable and smooth. Road holding was super and handling was remarkable. It just felt so good on a journey.

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 11:10 PM

i use mine as a daily drive and have put about 7000 miles on it since may and anyone that says minis are cheap cars never actually drives them atall.



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Posted 17 July 2013 - 09:51 AM

I used to do very long distances in my Minis and am hoping to do so again. I used only Castrol GTX, changed every 6000, which gave an engine life (standard 998) of over 100k miles. (I would use Miller's special oil for Minis now.) I think that because very few short journeys were involved, the oil lasted longer, same as with any car. Plugs and points every 12k, sometimes plugs at 6k, as one brand did not last very well, I think it was Bosch.

 

Gearboxes, except one which failed spectacularly, and one failed input shaft bearing, needed negligible attention, except for rod change oil seals, before the mod kit was introduced. Probably changed about once a year.

 

Pot joints, just checked every 6000, they rarely needed replacement. CVs also checked while greasing, every 2000, but typically lasted about 80k miles.

 

I did grease regularly, every 2000 miles or so, and ball joint replacement (after the first time) was very rare. Radius arm bearings went on almost for ever, I only changed them once, on the first van, which had been neglected and was cheap. Knuckle joints every 60k approximately.

 

Brake fluid changed rigorously every 18 months, and all seals every 3 years. Drum brakes adjusted every 2000, at the same time as greasing and CV inspection, or when the pedal travel suggested it was needed. Drums off every year or so, to inspect linings and check for leakage.

 

I did tend to have the head off every 20k to 30k miles to decoke, grind the vales, fit new valve springs, and check for bore wear. New bypass hose fitted every time.

 

The biggest problem was the constant battle against rust, however with modern paints and decent restoration practices that can be greatly reduced.



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Posted 17 July 2013 - 11:02 AM

Quite an illustrative example really. In any modern car, the only thing you would have to expect to change in  a 100k lifetime was the oil a couple of times, maybe brake pads and other fluids once or twice. And tyres.



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Posted 17 July 2013 - 11:08 AM

and in this weather I couldn't live without air con.



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Posted 17 July 2013 - 12:06 PM

Quite an illustrative example really. In any modern car, the only thing you would have to expect to change in  a 100k lifetime was the oil a couple of times, maybe brake pads and other fluids once or twice. And tyres.

 

I think if you get a modern car in a few years time (so it is old) and try and keep that on the road the problems and costs would be greater than a mini today.

 

If you factor in depreciation of a new car, overall it can cost a lot to run a modern car. Modern cars tend to be more fuel efficient, less hassle, overall cheaper to run day be day, but factor in the depreciation??? I think it boils down to do you want to be different? I use a mini as a daily, its an SPi with no rust, if I had to deal with rust constantly maybe I would not have a mini. My personal advice is get a mini with little or no rust (jap import) and its amazing how you can keep the rust at bay with waxyol etc. I must admit I have to work on it at least one full day a month if not some more. Averaging £100 month on parts. by the way I have air con, it works a treat.


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Posted 17 July 2013 - 12:24 PM

Well, I don't have a lot of data to back up my suspicion, but I know my parents' Toyota clearly costs a lot less in upkeep than any of the three classic minis in the family.

It's a 2003 model afaik, was bought second hand and hasn't had any issues apart from a headgasket since we got it. And that was arguably just a freak incident.

I guess it depends on what car you're looking at, but a small, reliable Jap or Korean car arguably has a considerably lower TCO than a classic mini. Especially if you factor in the restoration that may have gone into it.

I could have bought a second hand Porsche for the money I sunk into a single mini so far. Needless to say I'd rather cut a limb than buy a Porsche.



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Posted 17 July 2013 - 12:36 PM

To be honest this doesnt sound to bad at all, at the moment running a clio and its cost me  over £1000 in past 4 months since I have been doing the extra mileage. Dont mind the lack of air con although i have seen kits i think it was on mini spares for ac for mini and if I am not wrong the jap imports have ac as standard.  so looking at spending one Sunday a month greasing and checking for wear doesnt seem to bad then every 3 months changing the oil. That really doesnt seem so bad for running about in such a awesome little car.



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Posted 17 July 2013 - 12:40 PM

Well, I don't have a lot of data to back up my suspicion, but I know my parents' Toyota clearly costs a lot less in upkeep than any of the three classic minis in the family.

It's a 2003 model afaik, was bought second hand and hasn't had any issues apart from a headgasket since we got it. And that was arguably just a freak incident.

I guess it depends on what car you're looking at, but a small, reliable Jap or Korean car arguably has a considerably lower TCO than a classic mini. Especially if you factor in the restoration that may have gone into it.

I could have bought a second hand Porsche for the money I sunk into a single mini so far. Needless to say I'd rather cut a limb than buy a Porsche.

An early 911 is just as much fun as a mini - things just happen differently!

 

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