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[Alburglar]

I've offered it up a couple if times and addressed what has cropped up so far. I wont know exactly how the sump affects things until I've notched the bar where the gearbox hits. It didn't look like it was gonna be an issue.
I was planning to mount the engine with the drive shafts parallel through the subframe driveshaft holes (if that makes sense?) and it is nearly there.
But we'll see...

[Peskett]

Nice looking fame by the way, some of the ones I see on the forums make me cringe.

[Alburglar]

Lol. Thanks, yeah I know what you mean. We'll have to see how pretty it is when it's finished tho...

[Minidarren83]

I've offered it up a couple if times and addressed what has cropped up so far. I wont know exactly how the sump affects things until I've notched the bar where the gearbox hits. It didn't look like it was gonna be an issue.
I was planning to mount the engine with the drive shafts parallel through the subframe driveshaft holes (if that makes sense?) and it is nearly there.
But we'll see...

Are you using the pg1 box? If so the driveshaft pot joint on the n/s won't fit through the frame hole. I had to do the same and go round the sump as the ground clearance from the bottom arms would have been far too close

[Alburglar]

Yeah its pg1 and yeah I reckon I'll put in a bent round bar after removing part of the original subframe tower each side. I had realised about the pg1 joints not fitting but I was hoping the mini hub ends would fit thro before I fit the engine/box, but I now realise how little space there is around the nearside shaft and gear box. Not enough to slide the shaft out the way to fit gear box that's for sure!

[Alburglar]

...plus it's no biggie if I have to make more space for sump as everyone can foresee. I'll just cross that bridge when I come to it...
... Keep the suggestions coming tho folks, it all helps.

[Alburglar]

Not a massive update, but I offered the engine up to the frame and yes the sump will hit the bottom arms of the frame. And considering the gearbox hits it on the other side I thought a re-design was in order.
I made these replacements up making sure they don't interfere with the tiebar or suspension bottom arm. I just need to tack them in, cut off the old straight ones and offer it all up again. Fingers crossed.


Once that's sorted I can think about the drive shaft holes. I could weld in a support (where chisel is) and add some triangulation (where the pliers are) to support the suspension arm pin. I've seen other frames where they've just cut the forward strut of the suspension tower off, to clear the drive shafts, but it just looks to flimsy for my liking.

[Alburglar]

Bottom subframe arms mk2 are in and old ones removed:


Offered it up, but its only partially successful. Gearbox has plenty of clearance.


...but sump still doesn't clear and there may not be enough space to move the arm over without it interfering with the tie bar.

[Alburglar]

If i can't move it over, plan b is to build up at the tie bar end and end up with something like this:

[Alburglar]

Top subframe arm issues:
Not enough clearance belt side, but luckily there looks like enough space on my 'extension' piece to move it over by the required amount.


Gearbox side mount will need to be a carrier type setup, welded end on under the removeable arm.


I may triangulate it with another removeable leg onto the bottom subframe arm.

Edited by Alburglar, 09 September 2013 - 08:19 PM.

[Alburglar]

Managed to grab an evening at the workshop tonight.
Hopefully this is the final attempt at the bottom arm and it will clear the sump now.


I built up over the tie bar mounting hole

I will box it all in and make it pretty, once I know it works.
and at the other end I added some gussets to meet the bottom of the suspension tower.


I just need to move the bar over at the cam belt end and then I can offer the engine/box up again.

Edited by Alburglar, 25 October 2013 - 11:26 PM.

[Alburglar]

Shoehorn required, but engine is in the frame:

[Alburglar]

I had to extend the removeable bar and add the carrier for the gearbox mount. The bar at alternator belt end got moved over.
The sump was still touching the bottom arm slightly, but the engine was sitting level with driveshaft holes lining up with the outputs on the gearbox, so I thought sod it. And did the mounts.
I can probabably get away with a very shallow notch in the bottom arm to clear the nob on the sump that touches the frame.

Edited by Alburglar, 12 November 2013 - 09:10 PM.

[Alburglar]

Fits in the engine bay, with only minor trimming of inner wings.


Needs tidying, but notch in near side is done to clear sump (hopefully!)

[Alburglar]

A couple of little jobs boxed off. I made the notch look pretty, although it appears impossible to take a good picture of.


I finished off the removeable arm for gearbox mount. I added another bit to stop any forward/backward motion.


Then I cut out parts of the subframe towers to get the driveshafts in and out. It looks horribly weak though, so I'll be adding some steel here. These will bolt into tabs I will weld onto frame.

Edited by Alburglar, 21 December 2013 - 08:18 PM.