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#136 Alburglar

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:49 PM

Made some more clearance.
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Made it sound again, by re-inforcing the seams. Couldn't add too much material here because of clearance.
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So re-inforced it some more from the rear
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Just got to sand it when dry and Hopefully this will be the last time I have to do this!

Edited by Alburglar, 12 September 2014 - 05:54 PM.


#137 Alburglar

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:53 PM

Also made one good steering column out of two knackered ones today, along with a freebie steering wheel and boss. Cheers Pinch.

#138 Alburglar

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:54 PM

Boring pic, but it replaces a double post.
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Edited by Alburglar, 12 September 2014 - 05:45 PM.


#139 Alburglar

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Posted 01 October 2014 - 01:56 PM

Well I am a total arse.
Everything in, with what I thought was loads of space for the inlet manifold.
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Or not. School boy error,
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It's right where the pedal box and master cylinders are so I can't even put a bulkhead box in. I could but a floor mounted pedal box in but I want to be able to put back to standard if I ever fancy it. So either a custom inlet or move engine forward. Bugger.

#140 Alburglar

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Posted 02 October 2014 - 07:09 PM

Ok so I need to shorten the inlet manifold. And then offset the air box higher and more central (further to the right) by raising the flange the air box bolts to on the manifold.
So here's the plan:
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Air box and manifold.
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Manifold with injectors
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#141 Alburglar

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Posted 02 October 2014 - 07:14 PM

Got some 48mm tube.(not 45mm).
Gonna go together something like this but the tubes will be 200mm+ and the air box flange will sit on them.
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I can't make it too short and still use stock injector position, so Bulkhead will need some attention, but standard mini master cylinders should still fit if it all goes to plan

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Posted 03 October 2014 - 01:27 AM

I'm going to assume your bulkhead is standard sized compared to a normal mini if it is just move the engine forward I've got mine in with only a small mod to the bulkhead it also looks as your engine is fairly high too

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Posted 03 October 2014 - 04:16 PM

I do not really want the engine any further forward. It will handle much better where it is, with the weight as far back as possible. But we'll see, if I can't make this work, then I will have to.

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Posted 03 October 2014 - 04:23 PM

I've had to change from the round bar route and gone for some 50x25 rectangle box section, so the manifold is cut flush now.
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The 48mm tube won't fit and I can't fit them any closer to where the injectors sit. But the box section will work. It will come off at this angle...
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...and the inlet we end up here, much further over to the right.
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I've cut the top flange flush
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Posted 03 October 2014 - 04:25 PM

Next step is to build a jig to test final fitment and to make sure everything is in the right spot when it gets welded up .
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Posted 04 October 2014 - 11:56 AM

Due to some new input, I'm worried now that the required inlet changes could bugger up the engine map and performance.
Perhaps I should just bring the engine forward, so standard inlet fits like everyone else. It does mean changing my whole frame tho, as lower bars wrap around the engine with no room to play with. But if inlet works, then it will handle much better with engine where it is.
But floor mounted pedals would fix all issues, but the bulkhead box required for standard inlet would put shell past point of no return for ever bolting standard mini parts back on it.
I think I will recon my hubs ASAP, fit them and have a proper look at driveshaft position, before I make a final decision.
But I'll probably persevere with the inlet and just try it!
...making this whole post, utterly pointless. For that, I apologise.

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Posted 06 October 2014 - 08:57 AM

Can you not lean it rather then move it?



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Posted 06 October 2014 - 01:43 PM

I'm afraid not. It would be a very drastic lean and then drive shaft holes would be blocked by the frame.

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Posted 06 October 2014 - 01:48 PM

Remap it? :)

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Posted 06 October 2014 - 03:33 PM

Entirely possible if required, but Mems 2 isn't mapable...so that requires a mems3 conversion (new ecu, loom section, cam cover and coil packs plus an extra sensor I believe)and z&f remap or forking out for an emerald ecu.




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